That’s normal at YX from my experience, especially if you’re based in the northeast, because of the congestion and winter WX. And yes it adds up throughout the year. Also counts towards your over 87 hours, which are paid at a premium. To be clear over blocking 6 hours a month is pretty normal, and I’ve seen 12 hours in the winter.

 

Heck, it could be 12 this month. I didn't look that closely and was estimating on the low end. It sure has been a crazy month, overblocking almost every leg going West and way underblocking going east, but still getting full crefit.

 

So you got lucky and got a 175 slot in new hire class so your QOL is good. How would your QOL be if you didn’t get lucky with your class drop and got the 145 or CRJ. (Since, you know, your initial equipment is all luck at Envoy). I’m sure all your coworkers love hearing you talk about your QOL while they got unlucky with their class drop and are stuck on a dying fleet (CRJ 700) or got the 145, which is overstaffed into long reserve times. QOL is about consistency, not luck. At Envoy it’s all luck, it can be either good or unbelievably horrible. At OO and Republic, the QOL is consistent pretty much across the board and there are no surprises on day one of class.

 

Correct, I know I got lucky, and that's why I've always made it clear I'm talking from my personal point of view when I discuss QOL issues.

I'm glad you now admit it can be good. That was the point I've been trying to make.

Again - my original response was when someone said you can _NEVER_ have same QOL at Envoy as you can at YX/OO. That simply isn't true.

 

 

Oh no, it’s simply true.

I live in base at YX. A contract comparison alone proves my pay and work rules are better than Envoy. What’s airport-reserve and junior mannning?? Never heard of that. I’ve never spent a dime on luggage or uniforms. No crap flying that I’m aware of. A wide selection of affordable living bases that allows me to own a house off regional pay. Travel benefits on all three mainline carriers. And the 170/175 is extremely junior here.......because who the ******* wants to fly a CRJ?

Apples to apples, YX surpasses anything the AA WO’s offer. OO can’t even match let alone exceed what Republic offers.

But you took the carrot and fell for the flow. Hopefully you have some years behind you, because that carrot is a death trap for a new hire.

 

YX is great, if you live in base. I don't, so YX can't offer me the QOL Envoy can. How hard is that point to grasp? You _CAN_ have a great QOL at a WO. The post I originally responded to said you _CAN NOT_.
How hard can it be? If YX/OO/GoJet/whatever works for you, great!
Don't get me wrong - I like YX, it's a great airline and just like I've said before, everyone I know there is happy.

Hey, I haven't spent a penny on uniforms either.

And hey, when you start waving your "contract comparison", your contract has provisions for airport standby. You just haven't used it yet. Which is great. But don't say "contract comparison" if you don't know your contract.

I didn't "fall" for anything. I'm 6 months further in my career than where I would be if I accepted the class date offered at YX. I live in base. I fly a great airplane. I have great QOL. I couldn't be happier, even if there was no flow.
YX would be a great choice too, but I'm not going to move for a regional, and that's why AA WO works better for me.

 

Yeah but your compadres at yx are getting block or better AND 150% for everything over 87 hours. If I'm not mistaken, that's 150% for ALL hours over 87. Not just what you bid, and not based on our crappy credit scheme.

 

LGA for OO was nothing more than taking over ExpressJet routes temporarily and running C Series routes until that airplane came online. Once everything is set up and running those planes are going out to the west. It's not because OO is "lagging behind". You made that up.

 

That’s not what OO’s performance statistics reflect.

Facts are facts.