Best "real" flow to a major?
03-29-2019 | 10:40 AM
#41
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It's been closer to 140 for at least half a year. We've grown by about 1700 pilots in less than 5 years. I don't know what you expect for a source. My point was AA will have no issues keeping up with attrition.
03-29-2019 | 11:43 AM
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The military is begging for pilots now. Military pilots are now the minority at majors and as retirements keep increasing they are becoming more scarce. The number of pilots they’re currently putting out will definitely decrease, especially when you’re forced to stay in longer because they can’t recruit.
United and Delta are already committed to “street to hero” programs to fill future voids. They may not be “desperate” but they definitely know they will have to do something once retirements get rolling, such as lowering standards, most likely throwing the degree requirement away.
United and Delta are already committed to “street to hero” programs to fill future voids. They may not be “desperate” but they definitely know they will have to do something once retirements get rolling, such as lowering standards, most likely throwing the degree requirement away.
Dreaming? This is happening now. Who do you think make up the predicted retirements? Military. When the military can’t put out as much as majors demand from expansion, plus retirement voids you get a minority very quickly.
The point is they started putting a lot of investment into these programs recently because they know they’ll have plenty of seats to fill. Requirements for ones that hold ATPs will go down.
The point is they started putting a lot of investment into these programs recently because they know they’ll have plenty of seats to fill. Requirements for ones that hold ATPs will go down.
03-29-2019 | 11:45 AM
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03-29-2019 | 12:41 PM
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That's assuming all military pilots want to fly as a civilian when they get out. I knew many that didn't because they got well paying jobs when they got out due to their command experience and security clearance.
03-29-2019 | 01:06 PM
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And I’m not sure if it was by intention or ignorance (with Congress you can’t tell) but opening the RATP up to the military rotor guys introduced a HUGE new addition to the supply. Mother Rucker cranks out another 100 military rotorheads a month, most of whom will now be getting out when their ADSC is up and looking strongly at the regionals for additional FW time and then taking their shot at the majors.
https://taskandpurpose.com/commercia...icopter-pilots
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03-29-2019 | 01:24 PM
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Outpacing attrition by an average of 55/month is 660 additional pilots this year, bringing the total to 5360. Is there that much net growth at SkyWest?
I’m just having a hard time with the numbers. Then again, I don’t work there.
03-29-2019 | 01:47 PM
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No doubt SkyWest is a huge company. Maybe I’m wrong, just seemed really astounding to me. 125/month for a company with 4700 pilots. Legacies with 14,000 pilots on full tilt aren’t pushing those numbers.
I’m just having a hard time with the numbers. Then again, I don’t work there.
I’m just having a hard time with the numbers. Then again, I don’t work there.
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