New Born
05-02-2019, 10:29 PM
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New Born
Hi Fellas
If you are a brand new regional FO and in a few months me and my wife will have new born baby .
Can I take a family leave (no pay) for 6 months or a Year ?
If not and I quit will be able to get back in 121 world again after 2 year or will be look bad ?
What is my options ?
Thanks in advance
If you are a brand new regional FO and in a few months me and my wife will have new born baby .
Can I take a family leave (no pay) for 6 months or a Year ?
If not and I quit will be able to get back in 121 world again after 2 year or will be look bad ?
What is my options ?
Thanks in advance
05-02-2019, 11:17 PM
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Some regionals do give you FMLA, but they aren't required to. There will likely be a minimum amount of time you'll need to be on property for that or any other kind of associated leave. Yes, if you leave I would expect it would look bad.
Honestly, I'm not sure any job, let alone an airline, normally gives 6 months to a year leave for that kind of event. You could always ask if you can get one and it's possible they could give you one to keep you around, but I don't know if it's that likely in the current environment where they want bodies in seats.
Your airline will likely have some type of policy covering leaves for events such as a child birth, they probably won't be keen on going much beyond that. Actually, on that note, you should be trying to find out what your company's policy is before you ask this question here.
My concern for you is that if you quit as a new pilot at a first airline job because the leave wasn't enough for you, future airlines would be concerned that you would just quit again if you didn't like the schedule or domicile you were awarded. In the current environment you would likely still be able to get another job after getting flight current again, but it may be something that follows you around.
Honestly, I'm not sure any job, let alone an airline, normally gives 6 months to a year leave for that kind of event. You could always ask if you can get one and it's possible they could give you one to keep you around, but I don't know if it's that likely in the current environment where they want bodies in seats.
Your airline will likely have some type of policy covering leaves for events such as a child birth, they probably won't be keen on going much beyond that. Actually, on that note, you should be trying to find out what your company's policy is before you ask this question here.
My concern for you is that if you quit as a new pilot at a first airline job because the leave wasn't enough for you, future airlines would be concerned that you would just quit again if you didn't like the schedule or domicile you were awarded. In the current environment you would likely still be able to get another job after getting flight current again, but it may be something that follows you around.
05-03-2019, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon Jet
Hi Fellas
If you are a brand new regional FO and in a few months me and my wife will have new born baby .
Can I take a family leave (no pay) for 6 months or a Year ?
If not and I quit will be able to get back in 121 world again after 2 year or will be look bad ?
What is my options ?
Thanks in advance
If you are a brand new regional FO and in a few months me and my wife will have new born baby .
Can I take a family leave (no pay) for 6 months or a Year ?
If not and I quit will be able to get back in 121 world again after 2 year or will be look bad ?
What is my options ?
Thanks in advance
05-03-2019, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
Some regionals do give you FMLA, but they aren't required to. There will likely be a minimum amount of time you'll need to be on property for that or any other kind of associated leave. Yes, if you leave I would expect it would look bad.
Honestly, I'm not sure any job, let alone an airline, normally gives 6 months to a year leave for that kind of event. You could always ask if you can get one and it's possible they could give you one to keep you around, but I don't know if it's that likely in the current environment where they want bodies in seats.
Your airline will likely have some type of policy covering leaves for events such as a child birth, they probably won't be keen on going much beyond that. Actually, on that note, you should be trying to find out what your company's policy is before you ask this question here.
My concern for you is that if you quit as a new pilot at a first airline job because the leave wasn't enough for you, future airlines would be concerned that you would just quit again if you didn't like the schedule or domicile you were awarded. In the current environment you would likely still be able to get another job after getting flight current again, but it may be something that follows you around.
Honestly, I'm not sure any job, let alone an airline, normally gives 6 months to a year leave for that kind of event. You could always ask if you can get one and it's possible they could give you one to keep you around, but I don't know if it's that likely in the current environment where they want bodies in seats.
Your airline will likely have some type of policy covering leaves for events such as a child birth, they probably won't be keen on going much beyond that. Actually, on that note, you should be trying to find out what your company's policy is before you ask this question here.
My concern for you is that if you quit as a new pilot at a first airline job because the leave wasn't enough for you, future airlines would be concerned that you would just quit again if you didn't like the schedule or domicile you were awarded. In the current environment you would likely still be able to get another job after getting flight current again, but it may be something that follows you around.
05-03-2019, 04:45 AM
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All employers are required to issue fmla from day one by federal law.
Fmla would be granted if you are a care giver for either your child or wife. They would need some medical diagnoses to qualify. New burns need several dr visits hence your a care giver.
Different companies have different policies for taking off during births including using sick bank.
Fmla would be granted if you are a care giver for either your child or wife. They would need some medical diagnoses to qualify. New burns need several dr visits hence your a care giver.
Different companies have different policies for taking off during births including using sick bank.
05-03-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
All employers are required to issue fmla from day one by federal law.
Fmla would be granted if you are a care giver for either your child or wife. They would need some medical diagnoses to qualify. New burns need several dr visits hence your a care giver.
Different companies have different policies for taking off during births including using sick bank.
Fmla would be granted if you are a care giver for either your child or wife. They would need some medical diagnoses to qualify. New burns need several dr visits hence your a care giver.
Different companies have different policies for taking off during births including using sick bank.
05-03-2019, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
To clarify, all airlines are required to give you FMLA but not until you've been on property for 12 months. No. You won't get anything close to 6 months and depending on desperate the regional, you won't get a break before the 1 year anniversary.
Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
All employers are required to issue fmla from day one by federal law.
Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
Fmla would be granted if you are a care giver for either your child or wife. They would need some medical diagnoses to qualify. New burns need several dr visits hence your a care giver.
Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
Different companies have different policies for taking off during births including using sick bank.
One significant limitation: They only have to let you take ONE block of baby bonding leave. If you want to break it up and spread it out (I did), they are only obligated to let you take the first requested block. So if you really want the full 12 weeks, take it all at once (they can't deny that). I know people who got denied subsequent blocks after the first one.
But as others said, don't take the job if you're just going to bail after a few months. Any departure before completing one year probation will be viewed with suspicion by subsequent employers. You may not even get the opportunity to explain it because they just won't call you.
05-03-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes, you need to be on property for one year, and work a certain amount of hours. In the old days it was hard for reserve crew to meet the minimum hour requirement ("on call" didn't count), but I think congress fixed that (because the FA's complained).
No, actually from day 366. Some states might possibly have more liberal rules.
That would all qualify. But baby bonding also qualifies, for either parent so that's basically at your discretion.
They have to let you take FMLA baby leave in the first year. They can limit when you can take it, but they have to let you take the full 12 weeks. At an airline I suppose they might not want you to take leave over the summer or Nov/Dec (mine did, but different era).
One significant limitation: They only have to let you take ONE block of baby bonding leave. If you want to break it up and spread it out (I did), they are only obligated to let you take the first requested block. So if you really want the full 12 weeks, take it all at once (they can't deny that). I know people who got denied subsequent blocks after the first one.
But as others said, don't take the job if you're just going to bail after a few months. Any departure before completing one year probation will be viewed with suspicion by subsequent employers. You may not even get the opportunity to explain it because they just won't call you.
No, actually from day 366. Some states might possibly have more liberal rules.
That would all qualify. But baby bonding also qualifies, for either parent so that's basically at your discretion.
They have to let you take FMLA baby leave in the first year. They can limit when you can take it, but they have to let you take the full 12 weeks. At an airline I suppose they might not want you to take leave over the summer or Nov/Dec (mine did, but different era).
One significant limitation: They only have to let you take ONE block of baby bonding leave. If you want to break it up and spread it out (I did), they are only obligated to let you take the first requested block. So if you really want the full 12 weeks, take it all at once (they can't deny that). I know people who got denied subsequent blocks after the first one.
But as others said, don't take the job if you're just going to bail after a few months. Any departure before completing one year probation will be viewed with suspicion by subsequent employers. You may not even get the opportunity to explain it because they just won't call you.
Edit: the dept of labor employee guide says that you must give your employer 30 days notice. It makes it sound like if there is a need and you give them adequate notice, by law they cannot deny your FMLA.
Last edited by ChecklistMonkey; 05-03-2019 at 07:53 AM.
05-03-2019, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
I'd have to look it up but I'm not sure the employer can tell you you can't use FMLA leave for the birth of a child.
Edit: the dept of labor employee guide says that you must give your employer 30 days notice. It makes it sound like if there is a need and you give them adequate notice, by law they cannot deny your FMLA.
Edit: the dept of labor employee guide says that you must give your employer 30 days notice. It makes it sound like if there is a need and you give them adequate notice, by law they cannot deny your FMLA.
For baby bonding, the employer does not have to allow intermittent leave, so use it all at once or risk losing it.
Back in the day, the employer could specify when you took baby bonding leave as long as they allowed it at some point in the first year, maybe that changed.
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