View Poll Results: What is your college education level?
No Degree
44
10.53%
No Degree (Degree in Progress)
36
8.61%
Associates Degree
35
8.37%
Bachelors Degree
227
54.31%
Masters Degree
65
15.55%
Doctorates Degree
11
2.63%
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Do you have a college degree?
10-26-2019, 07:57 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by Violated
I don't have a HS diploma or GED and was hired by a regional.
I do have a BS Computer Science. I've recently accepted an offer to move up. I was at the regional for about a year. I suspect the 4 year technical degree was a factor in getting the offer.
I do have a BS Computer Science. I've recently accepted an offer to move up. I was at the regional for about a year. I suspect the 4 year technical degree was a factor in getting the offer.
10-26-2019, 08:00 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by fenix1
Great discussion on a Bachelor’s degree. What impact does earning a Master’s degree have getting hired by The Big 6? What impact does a Master’s degree have on getting hired at an ACMI or upper tier 91K or LCC?
But there are some statistics out there showing a high rate of post-grad education for major hires. Be aware that some of that is correlation, not causation... military pilots must get advanced degrees to career progress, and it's usually paid for by Uncle. That skews the stats, since most of those guys are actually getting hired for their mil wings, not their masters degrees.
10-26-2019, 08:10 AM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
Originally Posted by Cyio
It is a antiquated model that I am confirming too, begrudgingly, not because I don’t love learning but because it is arbitrary.
Sorry couldn’t resist!!! 😂
10-26-2019, 08:22 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
Originally Posted by DontLookDown
You meant to say conforming. Don’t worry, they will teach you that by graduation.
Sorry couldn’t resist!!! ��
Sorry couldn’t resist!!! ��
10-26-2019, 08:39 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,656
Originally Posted by Mesabah
It is ironic, that everyone who posts about not having a degree, usually has awful grammar. However, the mistakes are usually below a High School level English class. College isn't going to fix that, and for the right price, at the right "college", anyone can get a degree with that minimal effort.
10-26-2019, 08:46 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by Cyio
Yeah OK, lets start hyper analyzing grammar on a forum that was most likely typed on a cell phone while walking through a terminal. Way to prove your point though.
Many folks here have given and received career advice/assistance, but the people who can help will usually be turned off by poor writing skills or plain laziness. You're not texting your "squad".
10-26-2019, 01:23 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 744
Originally Posted by Cyio
So everyone stating that the degree represents the face of the company is full of it.
For most customers they don’t even recognize they are on another airline other than a smaller plane and perhaps it being announced as “operated by”. My point being if we are good enough for their customers at a regional level why do we suddenly need a degree to be good enough for it at mainline?
Things I do at a regional I also would do at mainline.
1. Show up for work
2. Respect my fellow employees
3. Keep safety as my number one goal.
4. Ensure customer satisfaction
5. Make announcements, speak to passengers.
6. Deal with weather and mechanical.
7. Deal with co-workers and their individual personalities.
8. Maintain health and ratings
9. Pass training events
10. Spend time away from home
11. Make complicated decisions that involve many different factors
12. Etc etc etc.
Name something you do at mainline I don’t do at a regional and describe to me how not having a degree somehow precludes me from doing it mainline but not at a regional?
It is a antiquated model that I am confirming too, begrudgingly, not because I don’t love learning but because it is arbitrary.
For most customers they don’t even recognize they are on another airline other than a smaller plane and perhaps it being announced as “operated by”. My point being if we are good enough for their customers at a regional level why do we suddenly need a degree to be good enough for it at mainline?
Things I do at a regional I also would do at mainline.
1. Show up for work
2. Respect my fellow employees
3. Keep safety as my number one goal.
4. Ensure customer satisfaction
5. Make announcements, speak to passengers.
6. Deal with weather and mechanical.
7. Deal with co-workers and their individual personalities.
8. Maintain health and ratings
9. Pass training events
10. Spend time away from home
11. Make complicated decisions that involve many different factors
12. Etc etc etc.
Name something you do at mainline I don’t do at a regional and describe to me how not having a degree somehow precludes me from doing it mainline but not at a regional?
It is a antiquated model that I am confirming too, begrudgingly, not because I don’t love learning but because it is arbitrary.
10-26-2019, 05:18 PM
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,595
If I were advising a kid who wanted to be a pilot, I would tell them this:
1- get your ratings ASAP and start building hours in a 135 position.
2- start working on an inexpensive online degree in your free time... ideally something diverse as a fall back in case you lose your medical or don't want to fly (I highly recommend finance because it is useful and versatile)
3- get your ATP at age 23
4- by then you may have enough hours to bypass the regionals all together, or at least your stay at the regionals won't be very long.
Ratings first, degree second
1- get your ratings ASAP and start building hours in a 135 position.
2- start working on an inexpensive online degree in your free time... ideally something diverse as a fall back in case you lose your medical or don't want to fly (I highly recommend finance because it is useful and versatile)
3- get your ATP at age 23
4- by then you may have enough hours to bypass the regionals all together, or at least your stay at the regionals won't be very long.
Ratings first, degree second
10-26-2019, 05:56 PM
#30
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 27
If my legacy employer told me to grow a mustache to look more like a pilot, I’d do it. It won’t make me a better pilot, but if it allows me to keep my job and provide a better QOL for my family, I’ll do it. Some things don’t make sense, such as having a college degree to fly bigger airplanes, but it’s certainly easier to just play the game.
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