View Poll Results: What is your college education level?

No Degree

10.45%

No Degree (Degree in Progress)

8.55%

Associates Degree

8.31%

Bachelors Degree

229

54.39%

Masters Degree

15.68%

Doctorates Degree

2.61%

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11-10-2019 | 09:56 PM

#121

OOfff

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

The crazy thing is, salaries are not even close to the largest expense. Over the last 5 years, Universities have spent almost $1.5 trillion on advertising/student recruiting. Greater than 50% of student tuition is that.

Link to source on this?

11-13-2019 | 07:17 AM

#122

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Originally Posted by MooseAg03

Nobody has mentioned the fact that Union leadership comes from the pilot ranks. If, as a whole, we were a relatively undereducated group with just technical training, how would we fare during negotiations with the corporate brains from management?

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The fact that we are making a little more than 1999 wages in 2019 is contradictory to your point. Someone called you elitist, I might use another word.

11-13-2019 | 11:51 AM

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Geez, it was just a thought. I’d say there’s some pent up anger around here, you guys need to get out more.

The comment was not specifically for regionals but the profession as a whole. I’m a newbie and even at the Regional level the guys we have representing us now are a lot smarter than I am. I’m suggesting we would be in a more disadvantageous position down the road if a large percentage of pilots only had technical training.

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11-14-2019 | 11:49 AM

#124

fanboy

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

With a degree, they have a slightly better idea where you fall on the spectrum when nobodies looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickair7777

I use good grammar even on my phone.

hypocrisy alert

11-14-2019 | 05:47 PM

#125

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by fanboy

hypocrisy alert

But my phone doesn't always send what I type. If I have a grammar failing, it's proof-reading my phone. Freely admit that.

11-15-2019 | 08:26 AM

#126

MedSledDriver

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Originally Posted by molitvic13

And for this reason is why you’ll continue to fly for Mesa.

^^^^this pretentious attitude is why everyone else in the industry, from rampers to CEOs, hates pilots.

11-15-2019 | 08:57 AM

#127

Grumpyaviator

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Originally Posted by MooseAg03

You don’t negotiate against management, you negotiate against the union-busting law firms they retain. Therefore your negotiators need to be very sharp if a few part-time volunteers are going to succeed against full-time professionals who live and breath victories over labor.

11-15-2019 | 09:05 AM

#128

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There should only be TA for STEM programs, and that should not be on the taxpayer.

Also, the fact that supply and demand is not a consideration in tuition is a reason it’s so expensive. Without aid it would be more affected by the free market and be more affordable.

11-15-2019 | 09:08 AM

#129

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Originally Posted by havick206

What’s with 4 year bachelor degrees anyway? The rest of the world completes them in 3.

But how much beer do they drink?

11-15-2019 | 12:36 PM

#130

rickair7777

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim

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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator

Also, the fact that supply and demand is not a consideration in tuition is a reason it’s so expensive. Without aid it would be more affected by the free market and be more affordable.

That's true, so far no matter what they charge, the system keeps raining mana from the sky to keep filling their coffers.