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Old 02-20-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome View Post
Wow this thread went 20 pages! It seems every so often this topic comes up in one form or another. And inevitably it turns into a huge back and fourth. It’s simple. If you want to tip and can afford it do so, hurray. If don’t want to or cannot then don’t. Either way it’s nobody’s business but your own. Make your own decisions and don’t take advice from an anonymous Internet forum.
That's the problem, it affects the service everyone else at your company gets as well.

It was interesting at my prior regional how many CAs didn't tip (while the FOs and FAs all did) but would also be up in arms when the van driver would care more about getting another airline's crew to the hotel a few minutes faster rather than wait for us to get curbside. Certain airlines have a reputation for crews not tipping. I wonder if we'd see an obvious breakdown if we knew who everyone in this thread worked for.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
That's the problem, it affects the service everyone else at your company gets as well.

It was interesting at my prior regional how many CAs didn't tip (while the FOs and FAs all did) but would also be up in arms when the van driver would care more about getting another airline's crew to the hotel a few minutes faster rather than wait for us to get curbside. Certain airlines have a reputation for crews not tipping. I wonder if we'd see an obvious breakdown if we knew who everyone in this thread worked for.
This is anecdotal at best. Sometimes the vans are there right on time, sometimes they are not. Sometimes they wait for another crew, or my crew, sometimes they dont. Sometimes the drivers are awesome, sometimes they are not. Some speed, some take it nice and slow. Honestly I think it comes down to the individual hotel policies more than anything else.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
That's the problem, it affects the service everyone else at your company gets as well.

It was interesting at my prior regional how many CAs didn't tip (while the FOs and FAs all did) but would also be up in arms when the van driver would care more about getting another airline's crew to the hotel a few minutes faster rather than wait for us to get curbside. Certain airlines have a reputation for crews not tipping. I wonder if we'd see an obvious breakdown if we knew who everyone in this thread worked for.
If only that were true. Personally I find that van drivers are more responsive to a crew being personable than whether or not you give them a lousy buck. Do you really think $3-$4 is really gonna sway a van driver? Or is it more likely that they will be swayed by someone genuinely interested in how there day is? More times than not, good crews end up forming good relationships with their drivers and know family names or hobbies and interests. Some drivers won’t even take the lousy buck, because the great conversations and laughs are where it’s at.

so again, tip if your so inclined. Or not, it’s up to the individual. Not anyone else. Ever.
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
You haven't traveled much it seems.

I'll take "any country in Africa" for $200, Alex.
Bribery is not tipping.
I’ll take dictatorships for $800 Alex.
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Old 02-20-2020, 05:33 PM
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So I had dinner at the MIA airport the other night, dinner for two. When the bill came the place automatically added a 15% gratuity. I gave them my credit card, to my surprise when it was time to sign they added an additional line for “tip”. Is this normal?

I felt like forcing me tip what they thought was fair was enough. To be honest, I was going to tip 20% but after seeing that automatically factored in, I left it at that.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
Bribery is not tipping.
I’ll take dictatorships for $800 Alex.
I can tell you haven't been there.

You don't tip at restaurants in Canada either?
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
I can tell you haven't been there.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
That's the problem, it affects the service everyone else at your company gets as well.
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If something truly effected me this greatly, and tipping required such an ‘insignificant’ amount, I would always make sure they were compensated for those non-tippers.
So when you see me (or any scum cheap pilot) not tip, and since $1-3 is nothing to you, go ahead and make us both happy, tip $1-3 more for my non-tip.
That way I don’t have to listen to your judgmental nonsense, and you won’t get ‘negative’ service from the driver.
It’s win-win!

Same to celebrities telling us not to fly while they are on their private jet. You give up your income in place of taking mine, win-win





Originally Posted by NeverHome View Post
If only that were true. Personally I find that van drivers are more responsive to a crew being personable than whether or not you give them a lousy buck. Do you really think $3-$4 is really gonna sway a van driver? Or is it more likely that they will be swayed by someone genuinely interested in how there day is? More times than not, good crews end up forming good relationships with their drivers and know family names or hobbies and interests. Some drivers won’t even take the lousy buck, because the great conversations and laughs are where it’s at.



so again, tip if your so inclined. Or not, it’s up to the individual. Not anyone else. Ever.

This!


Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
It s at least equally hard to believe you and the other anti tippers are serious too.



REALLY?



Your arguments are childish at best.
And here come the Ad-hominem attacks...

Tippers: CaRryInG bAgs oR bEiNg pROmpt iSnt PaRt ofTHeiR JoB DesCrIpRion.
Non-tippers: *literal proof of job description with exactly that IN the job description*
Tippers: YoU’rE ChiLdiSh.

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Old 02-21-2020, 10:45 AM
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In our society you will be judged differently if you choose to tip or if you choose not to tip.

Arguing about why that should or shouldn’t be the case is silly. It’s a societal norm bigger than our professions or experiences.

Decide how you want to be perceived and accept it for what it is.

But it sure seems like trying to fight those perceptions with arguments and rationalizations more often than not proves the perceptions someone is trying to dispel.
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Can’t this thread just die an inglorious death?

Obviously two different camps here and no one is changing anyone else’s mind.
I mean, no one has straight told anyone to **** off, and no one has posted a Harvey Weinstein meme, so I guess that threshold hasn't been hit. Yet.
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