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Old 05-23-2007, 06:59 AM
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If you really want to get into it, I think Atlanta as a city is THE MOST bigoted city I've ever lived in.
man you should see memphis. the "leadership" here is the most corrupt that any city has ever seen. is it any wonder we are the 2nd most dangerous city in the nation. is it any wonder that hundreds of people who make 50 grand a year at the city utilities worked "extra" and got 58 grand in overtime for a total of 108 thousand dollars??? just watch the memphis news and you will see what i am talking about. so with all due respect, atlanta doesn't even hold a candle to memphis.
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FWIW, I was specifically referring to the airport and its employees. Like the one at Chick-Fil-A who told me "Aint got no chicken" when I ordered a sandwich. True story, and occurring daily.

And EXACTLY WHAT is "you people" supposed to mean?!!

If you really want to get into it, I think Atlanta as a city is THE MOST bigoted city I've ever lived in. In the big cities up north, people tend to be much more colorblind. People rarely think about or care what race others are, myself included. In Atlanta, race is an in-your-face issue in EVERYTHING and the African Americans are the ones making it an issue. Take a look at Mayor Jackson's (the namesake of ATL airport) affirmative action laws if you don't believe me. They are 100% REVERSE DISCRIMINATION. But I guess that's ok, when the majority of the population, the entire city council and the mayor are from the same race, right?

I had NEVER been called a "cracker" until I moved to Atlanta.

I would submit that you, sir, are the bigoted one. I'd love to know why the Afircan American community allows this after everything their people have suffered through. Reverse discrimination is not equal to reparations, and two wrongs do not make a right.
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Subtle attitudes can be hard to detect, but I never detected very much racism or even reverse racism when I was in downtown Atlanta from 2003-2006. People were generally nice to me no matter what their color. I bought groceries at a mixed Kroger, worked on several integrated jobsites, dealt with the predominantly black government, had several black landlords, and was offered at least one job by an African-American business owner. I had no hesitation to deal with persons of different heritages. The mix was actually a nice thing and race was never an issue of any significance. I had so many pleasurable dealings with people of other colors I can't understand these charges of racial climate. Atlanta was and is a progressive town having paid a lot of political dues over the years. Atlanta produced some of the best A-A politicians in the world, men and women like MLK, Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, John Lewis to name a few. You see what you look for. I wanted to see people as they are and I tried to see both sides of the issue and found it wasn't one. There are things one can string into a support for the charge of racism and it is just as easy to see there is a climate of cooperation an Atlanta.

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Atlanta produced some of the best A-A politicians in the world, men and women like MLK, Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, John Lewis to name a few.
hahahaha,, i was waiting to see this name pop out.

so refering to him as a great leader isn't exactly helping your case.
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hahahaha,, i was waiting to see this name pop out.

so refering to him as a great leader isn't exactly helping your case.
Jesse Jackson hails from Chicago, not Atlanta. And Jesse also claims to have "held his brother, the Reverend Martin Luthur King as he took his dying breath", yet history proves he was on the other side of town at a fund raiser at the time.
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Jesse Jackson hails from Chicago, not Atlanta. And Jesse also claims to have "held his brother, the Reverend Martin Luthur King as he took his dying breath", yet history proves he was on the other side of town at a fund raiser at the time.
Actually, no. You dont read history do it. Youhave never seen the VERY famous picture of Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, and Ralph Abernathy (I know, mos tof you folks dont even know who thatis but he is famous inthe black community) standing over MLK when he was shot. Its veryfamus. But most whites dont really take the time to read our history, they just know the real big incdinents that the media shows.
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp View Post
FWIW, I was specifically referring to the airport and its employees. Like the one at Chick-Fil-A who told me "Aint got no chicken" when I ordered a sandwich. True story, and occurring daily.

And EXACTLY WHAT is "you people" supposed to mean?!!

If you really want to get into it, I think Atlanta as a city is THE MOST bigoted city I've ever lived in. In the big cities up north, people tend to be much more colorblind. People rarely think about or care what race others are, myself included. In Atlanta, race is an in-your-face issue in EVERYTHING and the African Americans are the ones making it an issue. Take a look at Mayor Jackson's (the namesake of ATL airport) affirmative action laws if you don't believe me. They are 100% REVERSE DISCRIMINATION. But I guess that's ok, when the majority of the population, the entire city council and the mayor are from the same race, right?

I had NEVER been called a "cracker" until I moved to Atlanta.

I would submit that you, sir, are the bigoted one. I'd love to know why the Afircan American community allows this after everything their people have suffered through. Reverse discrimination is not equal to reparations, and two wrongs do not make a right.
Of cpurse it is. Its the south, uhhh not even 50 years ago we had a thing called Jim Crowe. My mom and dad who are still alive lived in that era. My sister lived in that era. SO, its still vry much a part of who they are.

And please dont think up north is even better. They just arentin your fae about it. At least down inthe south I know who the racist are. They fly the rebel flagas and are ptroud of it. Up north, they shake your hand and smile at you and once youturn your back,they stab youin it.

Dint get me wrong.I gre up in the military. Il ove all people, but I also live in a world of reality.

Yes, Atlanta is pro black. Why? Because of attitudes like yours and comments I have rad on this board. Stereotypes.
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Of cpurse it is. Its the south, uhhh not even 50 years ago we had a thing called Jim Crowe. My mom and dad who are still alive lived in that era. My sister lived in that era. SO, its still vry much a part of who they are.

And please dont think up north is even better. They just arentin your fae about it. At least down inthe south I know who the racist are. They fly the rebel flagas and are ptroud of it. Up north, they shake your hand and smile at you and once youturn your back,they stab youin it.

Dint get me wrong.I gre up in the military. Il ove all people, but I also live in a world of reality.

Yes, Atlanta is pro black. Why? Because of attitudes like yours and comments I have rad on this board. Stereotypes.
I see people like you everyday. You claim not to be racist. You claim that you live in a world of reality. But with all due respect, sir, you are completely wrong. I grew up in the north, 20 years. I lived next door to black folks, I worked with black folks, and I lived in the rural part... where racism was MORE common than in the cities. And I NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. Had any one of them say any off color remark to me, treat me like they hated me for what had happened to "their people", or do anything that made me have the impression that racism was anything other than what we were tought in our schools about rebel flags and lynchings. However, within five hours of me moving to Atlanta, I was asking myself "What the hell is wrong with the black folks here?" I had people call me a cracker, a clerk at Publix close her line when I got to the front, only to reopen it again when I walked to another line, and I was robbed by someone that simply said "Give up the cheese white boy, you owe it to me." while holding a knife to my chest.... all in the first week I was here.

24G, you can say whatever you want. But the truth is, racism in this town is what YOU make it. If you want equality, get rid of the NAACP. Get rid of the United Negro College Fund. Get rid of affirmative action. If whites had these sort of organizations, they would be what???? Right, racist.

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Subtle attitudes can be hard to detect, but I never detected very much racism or even reverse racism when I was in downtown Atlanta from 2003-2006. People were generally nice to me no matter what their color. I bought groceries at a mixed Kroger, worked on several integrated jobsites, dealt with the predominantly black government, had several black landlords, and was offered at least one job by an African-American business owner. I had no hesitation to deal with persons of different heritages. The mix was actually a nice thing and race was never an issue of any significance. I had so many pleasurable dealings with people of other colors I can't understand these charges of racial climate. Atlanta was and is a progressive town having paid a lot of political dues over the years. Atlanta produced some of the best A-A politicians in the world, men and women like MLK, Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, John Lewis to name a few. You see what you look for. I wanted to see people as they are and I tried to see both sides of the issue and found it wasn't one. There are things one can string into a support for the charge of racism and it is just as easy to see there is a climate of cooperation an Atlanta.
ARE YOU F*#&ING BLIND MAN????????
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Just because you live next door to black people doesnt mean anything. When I was in college, Ilived next door to a klansman. They dont tell you what they think or say when you are not around.

Get rid of the United Negro College fund? If you think we live in an equalized society, you need to open your eyes. I wish we could but we are not there yet. Just look at this thread. I guarantee if I took a poll, everyone would know who Jimmy Doolittle or Chuck Yeager is, but if I asked who Benjamin Davis of Charles Anderson they wouldnt know and theae were important Americans just like the former I mentioned.

Now you think I am an angry black man. Iknow I know. But really you dont know anything about or my backgroung. But you will judge me nonethe less because its easy. I went to an Air, inc seminar last weekend. I was the only black guy there. Now to you that means nothing. Its no big deal. But to me and many others it is a big deal.

The United negro College Fund is there to help qualified students get into colleg ethat may be financially unable. And guess what, white people have gotten scholarships from this organization, but of course I wouldnt expect you to know that since you just judge them from what you see on the news.
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