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Old 05-16-2020 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Regardless of the answer there are a lot more to consider than variable operating expenses. Question now isn’t what makes most sense longterm but what is feasible right now given the hand you’re dealt. Maybe they cost more than an XXX, but that fleet is running up on C checks so it makes more sense to use the RJ’s. Maybe they cost more but someone is willing to pay nicely to acquire the cheaper fleet.
The great benefit of RJ's (especially 50's) is frequency. If you have 200 pax daily you can put them on 4x RJ flights and offer convenient frequency. One stretch narrowbody could carry all those people with a far lower CASM, but no schedule choice.

In normal times, frequency/convenience trumps the higher incremental cost of RJ's.

During the COVID recovery, not sure how that will play out. When they get to the point where they can mostly fill up a couple daily NB's, they might prefer to do that over more frequent RJ's... if the pax put up with it. They might put up with it for a while anyway.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The great benefit of RJ's (especially 50's) is frequency. If you have 200 pax daily you can put them on 4x RJ flights and offer convenient frequency. One stretch narrowbody could carry all those people with a far lower CASM, but no schedule choice.

In normal times, frequency/convenience trumps the higher incremental cost of RJ's.

During the COVID recovery, not sure how that will play out. When they get to the point where they can mostly fill up a couple daily NB's, they might prefer to do that over more frequent RJ's... if the pax put up with it. They might put up with it for a while anyway.
I never understood the problem pax have with RJs. Any RJ I've ever flown in has been more comfortable than any NB main cabin. It probably has something to do with pax having a carryon crammed with 10 days worth of crap and then b**** about the overheads...
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Old 05-16-2020 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
I never understood the problem pax have with RJs. Any RJ I've ever flown in has been more comfortable than any NB main cabin. It probably has something to do with pax having a carryon crammed with 10 days worth of crap and then b**** about the overheads...
Quicker to board/deplane too. I’d rather be in a -200 than anywhere except an exit row or a premium seat on a 737.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
I never understood the problem pax have with RJs. Any RJ I've ever flown in has been more comfortable than any NB main cabin. It probably has something to do with pax having a carryon crammed with 10 days worth of crap and then b**** about the overheads...
Not being able to stand up straight is what bothers me most. I think 175 has the best of both worlds in terms of comfort on board and quick deplaning.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 01:18 PM
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Quicker to board/deplane too. I’d rather be in a -200 than anywhere except an exit row or a premium seat on a 737.
I wouldn't go that far. But give me an E170 over a NB any day of the week.
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Old 05-16-2020 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Quicker to board/deplane too. I’d rather be in a -200 than anywhere except an exit row or a premium seat on a 737.
Yup. But I forgot to mention and have to leave some love for the 75. Last row is about 2 or 3 inches from the bulkhead and they still recline, practically first class
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Old 05-17-2020 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
It probably has something to do with pax having a carryon crammed with 10 days worth of crap and then b**** about the overheads...
It has everything to do with this. God forbid they have to gate check their bag...
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Old 05-17-2020 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by firefighterplt
It has everything to do with this. God forbid they have to gate check their bag...
Hahaha. Yup. Just might be the easiest thing to do too. Everyone loves the one guy that has to go against the flow to get back up to the gate agent after failing.
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Old 05-22-2020 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
I never understood the problem pax have with RJs. Any RJ I've ever flown in has been more comfortable than any NB main cabin. It probably has something to do with pax having a carryon crammed with 10 days worth of crap and then b**** about the overheads...
referring to the -200 specifically
-AC does not work
- have to gate check their bag
-last 6 rows smell like the lav
-hit their head walking down the aisle if over 5'10"
-no wifi
-limited snack/service options

I flew the 200 for 3 years and even I hated being a pax on plane more than any other NB. always thought the crj-7/9 was a toss up with the 737/md80 and the 175 comparable to a 320/757. havent flown on a E145 in years
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Old 05-22-2020 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by firefighterplt
It has everything to do with this. God forbid they have to gate check their bag...


Gate checking is fine,what’s not is when the arrival station sends them to baggage claim just because. Had that happen multiple times at DGS stations over the past couple years


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