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Old 04-23-2020 | 04:15 AM
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Only ones hiring will be cargo or 135.
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Old 05-05-2020 | 04:28 PM
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Prolly govt, mil, cargo and 135 will make bulk of the industry for at least next 3 years.
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Old 05-05-2020 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant
Prolly govt, mil, cargo and 135 will make bulk of the industry for at least next 3 years.
Doubtful. Even at 50 percent airlines still far out employ those sectors.
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Old 05-05-2020 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Doubtful. Even at 50 percent airlines still far out employ those sectors.
Through 2030 theres gonna be retirements in the neighborhood of 5-10,000 at big 3 majors, ULCC and Cargo. A lot of pilots will leave right now for other careers. Some might come back as soon as airlines call em back. A good chunk may opt for early retirements. A lot of military guys will be absorbed in new hiring wave(years away). So lots of factors to consider. There still may be room for people going through the pipeline. MAYBE.

Yes airlines might be famine for at least next 3 years. But there still might be a piece of the pie during this famine and the feast that comes after for someone who stays around, polishes themselves etc.

The only thing that bugs us all on here probably is no one knows how long will it take for the feast to come back again.


Airline might be the biggest employers but there will be more oppurtunities in those sectors. Airlines will be too competitive.
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Old 05-05-2020 | 08:36 PM
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I knew I should have taken that job flying rubber dog ******* outta Hong Kong...
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Old 05-09-2020 | 06:23 AM
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I knew I should have taken that job flying rubber dog ******* outta Hong Kong...
is it still available? Where do I send my resume?? Can I get weekends off ?? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤪
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Old 05-09-2020 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Sadly most of the regional force is too old now. They won’t accept.
I'm glad to be out of the regional world, but I will say the military is stupid to turn away good pilots simply on entry age. There are lots of guys would take a reserve slot flying the heavies. Leave the fighters and direct combat stuff to the youngsters. If a guy can fly a 737/767 or any number of RJ, Biz jet and turboprop equivalents all over the world carrying passengers; what's the reason they can't fly the same plane for the military wearing a flight suit instead of a company uniform?
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Old 05-09-2020 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
I'm glad to be out of the regional world, but I will say the military is stupid to turn away good pilots simply on entry age. There are lots of guys would take a reserve slot flying the heavies. Leave the fighters and direct combat stuff to the youngsters. If a guy can fly a 737/767 or any number of RJ, Biz jet and turboprop equivalents all over the world carrying passengers; what's the reason they can't fly the same plane for the military wearing a flight suit instead of a company uniform?
It's not like you just change uniforms. OTS, UPT, SERE, follow on training, etc etc.. I mean, can you imagine Richard Gere shooting officer and a gentlemen NOW?
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Old 05-09-2020 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
I'm glad to be out of the regional world, but I will say the military is stupid to turn away good pilots simply on entry age. There are lots of guys would take a reserve slot flying the heavies. Leave the fighters and direct combat stuff to the youngsters.
They've considered abbreviated courses, but I think their recruiting and retention challenges are over for a long time.

Also... the military "shortage" was not like the civilian shortage, they never had a problem filling new-hire slots, it was retention of mid/senior officers. Since military pilots are more managers/war planners/war leaders than just pilots, that senior experience is vital in the military aviation enterprise. They don't need 45 y/o RJ drivers in flight suits to fly their transports, they need experienced majors and colonels in leadership and HQ staff jobs... RJ drivers can't do that.

But as I said, problem solved for now.

Originally Posted by Cujo665
If a guy can fly a 737/767 or any number of RJ, Biz jet and turboprop equivalents all over the world carrying passengers; what's the reason they can't fly the same plane for the military wearing a flight suit instead of a company uniform?
Not quite that easy, all US airlifters have tactical roles and missions, in addition to hauling pallets from A to B. AARF, expeditionary operations, paratroop ops, etc.
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