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Old 04-04-2020, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 123494 View Post
it is a silver lining but people will go back to their old ways when this is all over.
in about 4 years after everyone deals with the coming Depression
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Carter1 View Post
Kirby also said it would be foolish to not be ready to be in a position to respond quickly if demand rebounds from 50-100 overnight. While I don’t believe this will happen, at least the company acknowledges the need to rapidly back build capacity if it should rebound.

I do think this chain of events adds on 3-5 years for regional guys getting hired, and those hired likely will be back to the realm of college degree, min 1000 pic, multiple types etc and create a new population of regional lifers.

Also, for all the geniuses saying college degrees aren’t important... it’ll be the difference between you working at 7-11 and an office job with benefits/decent pay/stability etc when you’re furloughed. Get the degree, make sure it’s non aviation related. Once you get that degree, get a masters. The laziness amongst the uneducated in our field is truly astounding.
agree. 3-5 years at a min. Furloughs coming will take about 2-4 years to clear out. Of every airline. Going to be a major logjam. Certainly won’t be a shortage of CFIs now working for $8 an hour again.
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by domino View Post
in about 4 years after everyone deals with the coming Depression
wait...all my pilot friends who also are both disease specialists and economists tell me summer will explode
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:16 AM
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I was an A&P before I went airline. Many people told me I should have just stuck to flying and I would have been better off. This may be true but as I am now furloughed from a regional I am glad I got my A&P as I am working full time doing maintenance. Yes I would rather be flying, but I don’t have that option for awhile. At least I can pay the bills and afford kibbles for my dog. Trade school is a great choice and a great back up. Even better would be a degree that includes certificates in a trade. A few aviation universities provide a path to a 4 year, an A&P, and flight training.
You dug yourself a deeper hole by getting an A&P. You would not be furloughed if you were just a pilot. An A&P is okay to have if it was free. Only fools spend time and money getting an A&P, dont be one.
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Old 04-12-2020, 04:34 PM
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You dug yourself a deeper hole by getting an A&P. You would not be furloughed if you were just a pilot. An A&P is okay to have if it was free. Only fools spend time and money getting an A&P, dont be one.
Everyone at my airline was furloughed. So my A&P is irrelevant to my furlough. There wasn’t a high enough rung on the seniority ladder to save me. Maybe I would have gotten to a major but who knows. If by “hole” you mean debt, I went to community college and got an AS for about 4K that included my A&P, some bachelor programs include it as well. A bachelors degree that includes learning a trade Can be very valuable in times like this.
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Old 04-12-2020, 11:43 PM
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Everyone at my airline was furloughed. So my A&P is irrelevant to my furlough. There wasn’t a high enough rung on the seniority ladder to save me. Maybe I would have gotten to a major but who knows. If by “hole” you mean debt, I went to community college and got an AS for about 4K that included my A&P, some bachelor programs include it as well. A bachelors degree that includes learning a trade Can be very valuable in times like this.
I was referring to the time and money you wasted that may have made a crucial difference in your flying career. A&P work has been in free fall since 2002. It really has become employment of last resort. Whats worse is the fact that industry has successfully lobbied congress to diminish the already low standards for entry. The job can no longer attract even lower middle class kids anymore so they are probing ghettos and barrios for help.
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