uavking

One work group in an industry negotiates gains, and successive work groups build off of that as a baseline. For example, UA's MEC gets a rate or quality of life point negotiated, and then DL goes for UA+ in their round.

UAW has a quick primer: https://uaw.org/pattern-bargaining/

threeighteen

Literally every union and non union shop does pattern bargaining. UA and DL do it all the time. Not somethhing to hold against SkyWest.

At least SkyWest didn't sign a concessionary contract to take planes from Envoy like ALPA did at PSA.

uavking

Considering that SkyWest uses being non-union as a selling point to recruits, it is fair to hold taking advantage of union pattern bargaining against them. St. George isn't giving their workers money out of the kindness of their hearts.

That ALPA pin isn't just a shiny piece of metal. It represents 90 years of hard fought gains for this profession.

mayanflyer

Communist much? How about doing the job that was mutually agreed upon at the point of hire. Like yes I will do that job for that amount. Not, well I still do the same amount of work but you owe me more! SKYW grew to be the biggest out of free market principles. It’s unfortunate other regionals are in tight spots but it’s still the free market. Survival of the fittest! No one owes you anything. Work hard and get ahead. Don’t expect someone else to give you anything.
Unions represent 90 yrs of pitting employees against employers. How about you get in the same boat and mutually benefit. Your company doesn’t exist to offer you employment and a paycheck. Your company is in business to make a profit. They profit, you profit! Doubt my logic. Explain why SKYW is dominating the regional market right now. Numbers talk. Complaining about how the evil corporate bad man is keeping you down hasn’t done jack to help your situation.
Yes sir. I will fly for you if you offer me that amount.
Don’t you remember the agreement when you accepted the job.
Put your hands back in your pocket!

GA2Jets

Your agreement with Skywest is a contract that benefits from unions hard work. In order to attract talent, they had to offer working conditions that were industry standard. The standard was fought for and created in large part by unions.

Your contract is a union contract. But you didn't have to work for it, pay for it, and you won't have to lose your job for it.

Ciceda

Spoken like a true Gen Z'er fresh out of Riddle.

furloughfuntime

spoken like someone who doesn't know the history of the American labor movement. It's scary how effectively brainwashed people are into acting against their own interests. Unions are an important weight in the balance of capitalism's market forces, and it makes the economy stronger in the long run.

anyone who thinks believing in unions is tantamount to communism is an idiot.

threeighteen

So what's your opinion on ALPA airlines voting in concessionary contracts to take airplanes from other carriers for growth? That kind of pattern bargaining is like, totally ok, but only because they are fellow union bros?

I'm actually a hardcore pro-union guy, but it's sad seeing all of the new guys in this industry get brainwashed by ALPA. ALPA has accomplished very little when it comes to improving pilot compensation and career stability in the past four decades. They have a laundry list of pay scale losses, pension program losses, and scope erosions that outweigh any "hard fought gains" they may have had on their resume at one time. Merger policy for seniority integration is also fairly weak.

Until ALPA mainline and regional pilots stand side by side and demand 1 contract and 1 seniority list for all pilots, few will treat them like the "super union" that they self-proclaim to be.

brigadeaviator

Hahaha! I have to thank you for that one. Zing!

Huell

How does it go? If ignorance is bliss, you must be down right euphoric.....