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Old 07-03-2020 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
I really wonder how this is going to effect future pilot supply.

The young pup deciding not to get into it at all.

The young person pulling out of their training now and never finishing.

The 32 year old who just did 9 years in a regional only to be left behind the wave after her regional goes out of business........but has finished their degree and is marketable elsewhere.

The 41 year old mil guy who dipped his toe, got burnt and then went back to service.....or onto bigger and better things.

The 50 year old that has just 'had enough' after finally leaving a regional only to be the first to be furloughed in his new major gig.

The 55 year old who convinced his wife it was a great idea to leave his well paying job as an accountant to go to a regional to chase his dream........only to be furloughed.....

The 62 year old who is offered an early out....

Those demographics all add up.
if there is one thing about this industry, it’s that a “pilot shortage” is just around the corner until whatever black swan of the decade stops it.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rightup
if there is one thing about this industry, it’s that a “pilot shortage” is just around the corner until whatever black swan of the decade stops it.
I think its coming.... Look at the lost decade....and now this....big pilot excess.....lotsa people out of work....so they go back to their real job. Its a big slow wave that is too slow for us mere mortals to percieve. And when its here its too late.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
I think its coming.... Look at the lost decade....and now this....big pilot excess.....lotsa people out of work....so they go back to their real job. Its a big slow wave that is too slow for us mere mortals to percieve. And when its here its too late.
You talk to some of the old timers and they’ll tell you there was supposed to be a pilot shortage in the early 90s when some of them first got on.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
Good point. Theft and dishonesty will get you immediately fired at most airlines.
unless you work in management. Then, it gets you promoted.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 08:03 AM
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To add to all the gloom and doom of pilot jobs...Article on Self Flying Airbus A350-1000 passes pilotless test.

https://youtu.be/k0UmA0ER8-c
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Old 07-04-2020 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hindsight2020
Isn't that a distinction without difference for an overstaffed airline?
i clarified the company policy for the question asked.

Come October let’s revisit staffing levels.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 03:30 PM
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Excellent advice from the OP and many others.

I'm 86% at my airline, so I'm expecting to be on the street in Oct of course.

I'm a tail end Gen X guy and I can't tell you how glad I am that I NEVER HAD KIDS! Doubly so amidst this COVID-19 chaos when I see what a mess it is with so many of my friends kids being out of school. I can't tell you how nice it is to walk into a quiet home after a 4 day trip.

Honest to God, I sleep soooo well at night knowing that I only have myself to worry about when I hit the street in 3 months, and not kids or a wife. Best decision I ever made.

I bet there will be a baby bust after the dust settles with COVID. Seems I'm far from the only one who believes that.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/h...vid-baby-bust/
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Old 07-04-2020 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
I think its coming.... Look at the lost decade....and now this....big pilot excess.....lotsa people out of work....so they go back to their real job. Its a big slow wave that is too slow for us mere mortals to percieve. And when its here its too late.
Just like all those FOMO “career changers” that quit their jobs and ran to flight school over the past few years and are hitting the street/stuck being a flight instructor for the foreseeable future, you will be disappointed if you expect unheard of career progression and wide body FO in five years or whatever. This industry is too unstable and will always be.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
I'm a tail end Gen X guy and I can't tell you how glad I am that I NEVER HAD KIDS! Doubly so amidst this COVID-19 chaos when I see what a mess it is with so many of my friends kids being out of school. I can't tell you how nice it is to walk into a quiet home after a 4 day trip.

Honest to God, I sleep soooo well at night knowing that I only have myself to worry about when I hit the street in 3 months, and not kids or a wife. Best decision I ever made.

I bet there will be a baby bust after the dust settles with COVID. Seems I'm far from the only one who believes that.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/h...vid-baby-bust/
100% agree. I'm hopefully safe with my job, but it's definitely nice not having to worry about taking care of kids right now. We also have enough saved to go a couple years without my income, which definitely helps me sleep better at night.
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Old 07-04-2020 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB
You talk to some of the old timers and they’ll tell you there was supposed to be a pilot shortage in the early 90s when some of them first got on.


I remember reading about the "coming pilot shortage" in FAPA since I was in middle school. Now, my son is in middle school, and I'm still waiting on the "coming pilot shortage"!

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