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Old 10-13-2021, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill View Post
You keep pushing the same line over and over and over. “Biggest hiring boom ever!” Who’s HR department is paying you to jump to every ****ing thread and hype up something that hasn’t happened. You see oil price’s lately? You see delta’s stock pull back after criticism of rising oil price’s today?

Pay close attention to October 18th, it’s a very important date for anyone who can’t afford to take a hit on rising interest rates. Hey I wonder if these airlines “projecting” big hiring numbers would be hurt by that?
Well, we will see, wont we.

So, your advice would be to hide in a bunker, learn how to drink your own urine, and live off of the grid?

The hiring for the last 3 months has been the highest that it has EVER been. EVER. More pilots were hired at major and legacy airlines in September than any point in the history of the industry. Period. So, while the largest part of the wave has yet to hit, the leading edge of it is pretty impressive.

The increased hiring is already here. Regionals paying pilots over $150k per year?!?! If that didn't tip you off to the fact that there is already a pilot shortage, I am not sure what will.

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Old 10-14-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 View Post
TPIC is going to be key. It seems getting on with someone like Atlas/Kalitta might help as FedEx/UPS seem to be hiring from there quite a bit right now. They key really, though, is going to be to fly as much as you can right now and try to get into the left seat. There are lots and lots of regional pilots getting hired by FedEx right now.

There are some things that will always be in demand. If you have a college degree, and have TPIC, you will always beat out someone that doesn't have it. Add a couple good type ratings to that, and you will be all set.

Leave, stay...whatever. Just fly as much as you can right now. You are potentially towards the back end of the biggest hiring wave in a lifetime. Do your best to try to move yourself more toward the front. Jumping airlines means less hours flown, and that is what you really need to move on quickly.
Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 View Post
If that's your goal then you should be in upgrade asap mode. Maybe not fly a lot to where you have zero qol but don't be lazy either and take the first upgrade. As cargo companies require TPIC time. Having that 121 time too makes it look a lot better
Thank you both for your replies. They are helpful. I do have ~800 hours TPIC, all single engine though.
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Old 10-14-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by colonials13 View Post
Thank you both for your replies. They are helpful. I do have ~800 hours TPIC, all single engine though.
Single engine TPIC (turboprop, Im assuming) isn't really worth very much.

Using the colloquial language, TPIC more or less refers to multiengine turbofan pilot in command time at a 121 carrier. I have worked with lots of people that had 2000+ hours in a BE1900, Saab, Shorts, Metroliner, or similar aircraft but that really doesn't help them at all get a job at a major. They want multiengine jet time at an airline of some sort.
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan View Post
Single engine TPIC (turboprop, Im assuming) isn't really worth very much.
Only if it carries weapons.
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Old 10-14-2021, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Only if it carries weapons.
True. I will qualify that it does count if you have a pointy nose.
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Old 10-16-2021, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by colonials13 View Post
Hello all.

Relatively new regional FO here, pondering career directions. What else, right? Haha.

My career goal is FedEx or UPS. Should I stay at the regional? I’m not in upgrade ASAP mode (at least right now). Or, try to get hired with a good cargo company soon and then try to get hired by FedEx or UPS?

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You need 1000 turbine pic for UPS. Get that as fast as you can. Once you hit that mark go Heavy intl which means ACMIs usually. Start applying at UPS when you check their boxes.
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Old 10-16-2021, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Only if it carries weapons.
So true. I know lots of guys with thousands of hours of PC-12 time and it really means nothing to the airlines.
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Old 10-18-2021, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Skybound12 View Post
So true. I know lots of guys with thousands of hours of PC-12 time and it really means nothing to the airlines.
Unless it carries weapons also applies.
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Old 10-24-2021, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxy5 View Post
Unless it carries weapons also applies.
A ton of CFIs are gonna read this ^^ and then start flying around in their 152 with a 12-gauge.
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Skybound12 View Post
So true. I know lots of guys with thousands of hours of PC-12 time and it really means nothing to the airlines.
I’ve always wondered how the Air Force U-28 guys stack up when it comes to Airline hiring? PC-12 time and no weapons, but lots of time flying in, around, and over some not so friendly areas.

I actually know a guy who is at 10 years in the Air Force and only has PT-6 time since his assignments have been the U-28 and a T-6 IP.
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