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08-23-2022 | 08:22 PM

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Excargodog

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Originally Posted by ABXAirOfficer

You do realize commutair just increased CA pay to 100/hr and FO pay to 72/hr today right? They aren't going anywhere. They're the 2nd best paying regional behind aawo

$100/hr won’t keep CAs around long enough to get an FO enough time to upgrade. And any regional without a waiting list of ready and willing upgrade eligible FOs is in a graveyard spiral.

08-29-2022 | 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

$100/hr won’t keep CAs around long enough to get an FO enough time to upgrade. And any regional without a waiting list of ready and willing upgrade eligible FOs is in a graveyard spiral.

Truth. $150/hr for a new captain is standard now. And actually how it should have been for many years now. Glad the industry is finally paying us what we’re worth.

08-29-2022 | 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by V1rotate2500

We’ll everyone in Aviate I hope you see the reality of what Aviate really is. Air Wisconsin is out so those guys will be liking what to do now since there hopes with a flow to United are gone. Gojet is next with them losing 10% of captains a MONTH. So who is left you may ask ? Mesa and commutair. Commutair has a dying fleet so they are on there way out any minute and also loosing captains RAPIDLY. United will continue SOME regional flying with skywest and republic and they aren’t in Aviate. All part of the plan guys !

The air wisconsin aviate people who already completed their exit requirements will probably all still go based on the program guide and as far as I know they haven’t mentioned what will happen to the lower time people. They may have to go to another Uax carrier or maybe they’ll just let them go anyway. Not all doom and gloom yet. The XJT aviate people still got to go.

09-12-2022 | 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by idlethrust

Uhhhh, yes there is . A big difference. Class 2 nav, etops , orca ops just to name a few .

You mean the stuff ACMI pilots used to learn (pre-1500 days) as early as 500 hours TT? It's not that hard.

09-17-2022 | 08:17 AM

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TwoDaysBehind

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Still have to quit the regionals to make $250/hour as legacy captains. At UA and DL that's on offer within a year, at AA it's within 1.5 years.

09-17-2022 | 08:39 PM

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Still have to quit the regionals to make $250/hour as legacy captains. At UA and DL that's on offer within a year, at AA it's within 1.5 years.

why quit the regionals when you can make $400/hr as a regional LCA?

09-17-2022 | 10:01 PM

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iSaidNO

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Does aviate suck?

Yes aviate sucks.

Next question!

09-18-2022 | 07:57 AM

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why quit the regionals when you can make $400/hr as a regional LCA?

Because the QOL doing IOE all month is lethal.

Quitting the regionals is the best thing in life. It feels better than divorce.

09-22-2022 | 09:25 AM

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These programs are a joke.

Look around. You are being played. It’s a Trump styled soft dollar move against young people. It’s how Weinstein predated people. Don’t sign up for flow programs.

United American and Delta are desperate hard core addicts. What they are addicted to is 50years of cheap labor, and they want the high to keep going.