Regional Airlines Shrinking?
#42
https://www.thestreet.com/retail/del...hese-17-cities
DL leaves these markets, some have been gone since covid. Most were regional markets, I remember Delta doing SLC-SBA, GJT, COD, DRO for years.
DL leaves these markets, some have been gone since covid. Most were regional markets, I remember Delta doing SLC-SBA, GJT, COD, DRO for years.
- Akron, Ohio
- Cody, Wyo.
- Durango, Colo.
- Erie, Pa.
- Flint, Mich.
- Fort Smith, Ark.
- Grand Junction, Colo.
- La Crosse, Wis.
- Lincoln, Neb.
- Manchester, N.H.
- New Bern, N.C.
- Newburgh, N.Y.
- Newport News, Va.
- Peoria, Ill.
- Santa Barbara, Calif.
- State College, Pa.
- Wilkes-Barre, Pa,
#43
Of course regionals are shrinking…
NEWARK, New Jersey — Faced with congested airports, rising costs, a pilot shortage and a resurgence in travel demand, airlines are increasingly turning to the same remedy: bigger planes that fit more passengers.
Flights operated by the 11 largest U.S. airlines had an average of more than 153 seats on domestic flights last year, up from an average of nearly 141 seats in 2017, according to aviation data firm Cirium. In April, U.S. carriers have 0.6% more seats in their domestic schedules compared with the same month of 2019, despite operating 10.6% fewer flights.
The trend toward larger planes, part of a strategy known in the industry as “upgauging,” means airlines can sell more seats on each flight and make do with fewer planes, which are in short supply. While more passengers per plane drive down an airline’s unit costs, it means fewer flight options for consumers.
For example, United Airlines said its flights have 20 more seats per departure in its full network than in 2019.
Rodney Cox, United’s vice president of airport operations at the carrier’s hub at Newark Liberty International Airport, told CNBC last month that it’s difficult to increase the number of flights operated into and out of the airport, one of the nation’smost congested.
“The way we continue to grow our model and grow the business is to upgauge our flights,” he said.
Last month, United said it would fly about 3,600 domestic routes using wide-body aircraft. The airline also devoted 777s, the largest plane in its fleet with 364 seats, to fly between major hubs and Orlando, Florida, during spring break, a spokeswoman said.
Flights operated by the 11 largest U.S. airlines had an average of more than 153 seats on domestic flights last year, up from an average of nearly 141 seats in 2017, according to aviation data firm Cirium. In April, U.S. carriers have 0.6% more seats in their domestic schedules compared with the same month of 2019, despite operating 10.6% fewer flights.
The trend toward larger planes, part of a strategy known in the industry as “upgauging,” means airlines can sell more seats on each flight and make do with fewer planes, which are in short supply. While more passengers per plane drive down an airline’s unit costs, it means fewer flight options for consumers.
For example, United Airlines said its flights have 20 more seats per departure in its full network than in 2019.
Rodney Cox, United’s vice president of airport operations at the carrier’s hub at Newark Liberty International Airport, told CNBC last month that it’s difficult to increase the number of flights operated into and out of the airport, one of the nation’smost congested.
“The way we continue to grow our model and grow the business is to upgauge our flights,” he said.
Last month, United said it would fly about 3,600 domestic routes using wide-body aircraft. The airline also devoted 777s, the largest plane in its fleet with 364 seats, to fly between major hubs and Orlando, Florida, during spring break, a spokeswoman said.
In the competition for gates at increasingly crowded hubs, the advantage is starting to go to the biggest aircraft that can fit in the gate.
#44
Bottom line, 50 seats are mostly going away, replaced by 76 seats.
Some 76 seats will up gauge to 737/320.
Anyone who has been paying attention in this business has known that for several years.
in addition, a number of airports have been adding gates. Again, no news. Long term.
Some 76 seats will up gauge to 737/320.
Anyone who has been paying attention in this business has known that for several years.
in addition, a number of airports have been adding gates. Again, no news. Long term.
#45
Bottom line, 50 seats are mostly going away, replaced by 76 seats.
Some 76 seats will up gauge to 737/320.
Anyone who has been paying attention in this business has known that for several years.
in addition, a number of airports have been adding gates. Again, no news. Long term.
Some 76 seats will up gauge to 737/320.
Anyone who has been paying attention in this business has known that for several years.
in addition, a number of airports have been adding gates. Again, no news. Long term.
#46
All true, but the regional forum is where people approaching ATP eligibility go to learn about their next step. Many have been out CFIing or whatever, and haven’t been paying attention since they got the sales job from Embry-Riddle, ATP, or wherever. They are fortunate in that they are hitting a high retirement period for the three legacies, but what woukd have been common consensus 3-4 years ago has changed mightily now.
I am addressing this article. It is posted in regionals. I am responding to it, where it is.
#47
I am addressing this article. It is posted in regionals. I am responding to it, where it is.
#48
You continue to endlessly debate and take counter positions to me, and many others here. I am tired of that approach. I feel sorry for your spouse, your children, and your neighbors. They either continually but heads with you or they just roll their eyes and roll over and play dead; thinking less of you. I do not have that problem with anyone else on these forums. Take this as constructive feedback.
(Incidentally, I have never blocked anyone on these forums. I have no intention of changing my policy.)
(Incidentally, I have never blocked anyone on these forums. I have no intention of changing my policy.)
#49
You continue to endlessly debate and take counter positions to me, and many others here. I am tired of that approach. I feel sorry for your spouse, your children, and your neighbors. They either continually but heads with you or they just roll their eyes and roll over and play dead; thinking less of you. I do not have that problem with anyone else on these forums. Take this as constructive feedback.
(Incidentally, I have never blocked anyone on these forums. I have no intention of changing my policy.)
(Incidentally, I have never blocked anyone on these forums. I have no intention of changing my policy.)
#50
You make my point perfectly, in your response attitude. I am sorry for you, if you act this way in real life. Enough said.
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