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Old 01-19-2013 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
What statement - this one?



I don't disagree with the benefit of a "boot camp" type filter; hell I think the same would be said of society as a whole.

But we're not talking about Basic or Boot, UPT or even the rise of the SNAP, we're talking civilian aviation training.

I'd like to think by the time one becomes a professional pilot we're all big boys and girls that can take a four-letter word and not be grossly offended...but IMO there are much, much more effective ways to instruct civilians.
I'm with you on that, and not just for civilians. After the "boot camp" phase my military training was all big-boy rules...you could perform or not, that was up to you. You might get raised voices and well-placed profanity to penetrate the fog of exhaustion or confusion to help you focus...but that was for your benefit.
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Old 01-19-2013 | 08:22 AM
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This just in: Flying for a regional airline does not typically involve warzones, combat, surface to air missiles, or dogfighting.

It does involve a lot of crying about how much your job sucks, backpacks, Northface jackets, and eating at McDonalds though.
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Old 01-19-2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BelowMins
Well you'd have to cancel a master caution when the tanks get within 100 lbs of each other. So yeah pretty stupid if you then allow it to continue to 801 the other way.

WE should use that example for every aviation accident/incident ever, and we would still look like fools. Skills and luck go hand-in-hand whereas when luck runs out skills may not be enough. Almost all aviation accidents/incidents are the result of some sort of human error no matter how slight!
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Old 01-19-2013 | 09:45 AM
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Profanities , hostile environment and down right discirimination cost me years at skywest . GB is the biggest a hole i have ever seen..
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Old 01-19-2013 | 10:26 AM
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[mod note] Please keep the topic of the present thread in mind when posting responses to this topic (washout rates). It be necessary to start separate threads for the other topics.
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Old 01-19-2013 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
This just in: Flying for a regional airline does not typically involve warzones, combat, surface to air missiles, or dogfighting.

It does involve a lot of crying about how much your job sucks, backpacks, Northface jackets, and eating at McDonalds though.
What is it they say about empty barrels?
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Old 01-19-2013 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
Profanities , hostile environment and down right discirimination cost me years at skywest . GB is the biggest a hole i have ever seen..
Please elaborate.
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Old 01-19-2013 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
Profanities , hostile environment and down right discirimination cost me years at skywest . GB is the biggest a hole i have ever seen..
What is a GB?
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Old 01-24-2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Great Lakes washout rate has been about 40% over the years.

I believe that it has improved latley. Captain upgrade training has a fairly high washout rate as well.

This is mostly due to the challenge of flying the sim. The 1900 sim is not easy, and of course there is no autopilot to rely on. All handflown, and the sim is much less stable than the airplane. It's a scan builder, and if you come to training without a solid scan, you won't make it through.
Went through new hire class back in 08. Out of 8 1900 guys in class, I was the only one who made it to the line. Everyone else washed out either on sim or flight training. Granted, the 1900 is a little more involved then your average RJ!
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Old 01-24-2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
What is it they say about empty barrels?
Ive never heard anything said about empty barrels.
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