Comair updates?
12-01-2008 | 03:07 PM
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Exactly...to put a twist on Forrest Gump: "Greedy is as Greedy does"
There are a lot of me, me me senior pilots. I remember one guy in particular when I first found out about being f'ed. He brought up the furloughs, asked if I was one of them. When I said yes, he actually said this: "Well at least you're not making much money and won't have much to lose. My 401(k) has dropped more than you'll make this year." He then went on to tell me how smart he was by converting his 401(k) to cash and avoided losing hundreds of thousands like some of the other guys. Upid-stay Ick-pray!
There are a lot of me, me me senior pilots. I remember one guy in particular when I first found out about being f'ed. He brought up the furloughs, asked if I was one of them. When I said yes, he actually said this: "Well at least you're not making much money and won't have much to lose. My 401(k) has dropped more than you'll make this year." He then went on to tell me how smart he was by converting his 401(k) to cash and avoided losing hundreds of thousands like some of the other guys. Upid-stay Ick-pray!
12-01-2008 | 04:14 PM
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From: awkward & cramped
Minor correction Diver: flew the 70 
Bluemoon: It wasn't DE, but I did have the distinct pleasure of flying with him. He's kind of a "nice for you to meet me" kinda guy.
One curiousity about some 70/90 senior caps: I always thought that "Comair heavy" was a joke. Does it really take 55 seconds to position and hold including that enormous 90 degree arc?
I know that I don't have 20,000 hours of CRJ time and that there are plenty of things to comment on about my flying...I just always found the dramatic position and hold thing kind of funny.
Bluemoon: It wasn't DE, but I did have the distinct pleasure of flying with him. He's kind of a "nice for you to meet me" kinda guy.
One curiousity about some 70/90 senior caps: I always thought that "Comair heavy" was a joke. Does it really take 55 seconds to position and hold including that enormous 90 degree arc?
I know that I don't have 20,000 hours of CRJ time and that there are plenty of things to comment on about my flying...I just always found the dramatic position and hold thing kind of funny.
12-01-2008 | 04:30 PM
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From: OH CA - Retired
First of all, I have never picked up open time while people are furloughed. I think the same as apparently a majority of people on here do - that is, the company should adequately staff the airline so that there is no need for 'open time.' They ain't gonna do that.
Alright, let me play David's Advocate. If pilots don't pick up open time, what happens? They JM someone, perhaps at a terribly inconvenient time. The company still pays time-and-a-half, but what kind of consolation is that when you miss your commute home to do a DAY out and back? The logic is that if we are solid as a pilot group and don't pick up open time, the company will see the errors of its ways and not furlough as many pilots to maintain adequate staffing. So please tell when and at what airline this strategy has ever worked?
What we have in not picking up open time is something that is symbolic at best and futile at worst. I don't know if the Association can even legally impose an open time ban.
[David's Advocate portion concluded]
The reason I don't pick up open time is strictly symbolic. That, and the fact that I'm on ML. I suffer no delusions that pilot's not picking up open time wil have any effect on staffing. It will work about as well as a bag sticker.
Alright, let me play David's Advocate. If pilots don't pick up open time, what happens? They JM someone, perhaps at a terribly inconvenient time. The company still pays time-and-a-half, but what kind of consolation is that when you miss your commute home to do a DAY out and back? The logic is that if we are solid as a pilot group and don't pick up open time, the company will see the errors of its ways and not furlough as many pilots to maintain adequate staffing. So please tell when and at what airline this strategy has ever worked?
What we have in not picking up open time is something that is symbolic at best and futile at worst. I don't know if the Association can even legally impose an open time ban.
[David's Advocate portion concluded]
The reason I don't pick up open time is strictly symbolic. That, and the fact that I'm on ML. I suffer no delusions that pilot's not picking up open time wil have any effect on staffing. It will work about as well as a bag sticker.
12-01-2008 | 05:15 PM
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First of all, I have never picked up open time while people are furloughed. I think the same as apparently a majority of people on here do - that is, the company should adequately staff the airline so that there is no need for 'open time.' They ain't gonna do that.
Alright, let me play David's Advocate. If pilots don't pick up open time, what happens? They JM someone, perhaps at a terribly inconvenient time. The company still pays time-and-a-half, but what kind of consolation is that when you miss your commute home to do a DAY out and back? The logic is that if we are solid as a pilot group and don't pick up open time, the company will see the errors of its ways and not furlough as many pilots to maintain adequate staffing. So please tell when and at what airline this strategy has ever worked?
What we have in not picking up open time is something that is symbolic at best and futile at worst. I don't know if the Association can even legally impose an open time ban.
[David's Advocate portion concluded]
The reason I don't pick up open time is strictly symbolic. That, and the fact that I'm on ML. I suffer no delusions that pilot's not picking up open time wil have any effect on staffing. It will work about as well as a bag sticker.
Alright, let me play David's Advocate. If pilots don't pick up open time, what happens? They JM someone, perhaps at a terribly inconvenient time. The company still pays time-and-a-half, but what kind of consolation is that when you miss your commute home to do a DAY out and back? The logic is that if we are solid as a pilot group and don't pick up open time, the company will see the errors of its ways and not furlough as many pilots to maintain adequate staffing. So please tell when and at what airline this strategy has ever worked?
What we have in not picking up open time is something that is symbolic at best and futile at worst. I don't know if the Association can even legally impose an open time ban.
[David's Advocate portion concluded]
The reason I don't pick up open time is strictly symbolic. That, and the fact that I'm on ML. I suffer no delusions that pilot's not picking up open time wil have any effect on staffing. It will work about as well as a bag sticker.
12-01-2008 | 06:35 PM
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From: OH CA - Retired
Right. And if you are having a runny nose at the end of a trip take some chlorpheniramine. Works great. As a caution, remember that using this medication may cause drowsiness. Because of that, it is not approved by the FAA for use by airmen until 12 hours after the last dose period.
12-02-2008 | 06:08 AM
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Everyone BOHICA....
On Tuesday, December 2 at an investment conference in New York, Delta will announce plans to decrease systemwide capacity, for both Delta and Northwest, during 2009. This action comes as a result of the global economic recession and weaker demand for air travel, according to Delta.
"Systemwide 2009 capacity will be down 6-8% year over year," according to a memo to employees from Richard Anderson and Ed Bastian. "Domestic capacity will be down 8-10% and international capacity will be down approximately 3-5%."
In the memo, Delta acknowledges that additional staffing adjustments will be necessary but did not provide additional detail. The memo does not mention specific impacts on the regional carriers or Comair.
Taken from the frontpage of Epic.
On Tuesday, December 2 at an investment conference in New York, Delta will announce plans to decrease systemwide capacity, for both Delta and Northwest, during 2009. This action comes as a result of the global economic recession and weaker demand for air travel, according to Delta.
"Systemwide 2009 capacity will be down 6-8% year over year," according to a memo to employees from Richard Anderson and Ed Bastian. "Domestic capacity will be down 8-10% and international capacity will be down approximately 3-5%."
In the memo, Delta acknowledges that additional staffing adjustments will be necessary but did not provide additional detail. The memo does not mention specific impacts on the regional carriers or Comair.
Taken from the frontpage of Epic.
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