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Old 02-07-2011 | 06:51 AM
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Hey guys, something I noticed today in the March bid.
According to the Pilot count we have exactly 1000 in the roster. Supposedly we only lost 13 in Feb. That total remaining include 50 & 70/90. My believe is out that total, about 620 (+/-) are DTW based.
The hours for DTW are a tad over 10k for March (1K more that Feb). So my question is, how do they expect to cover all that flying since we were barely able the cover Feb with less hours and more pilots?. Yes they are moving people from CVG, but we are still losing more people between now and end of March. I'm a bit perplexed byt this.
Anyone with a good theory, I'd like to hear it.
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Old 02-07-2011 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by evilboy
Hey guys, something I noticed today in the March bid.
According to the Pilot count we have exactly 1000 in the roster. Supposedly we only lost 13 in Feb. That total remaining include 50 & 70/90. My believe is out that total, about 620 (+/-) are DTW based.
The hours for DTW are a tad over 10k for March (1K more that Feb). So my question is, how do they expect to cover all that flying since we were barely able the cover Feb with less hours and more pilots?. Yes they are moving people from CVG, but we are still losing more people between now and end of March. I'm a bit perplexed byt this.
Anyone with a good theory, I'd like to hear it.
Y'all be good.
My theory: Simple bean counter cause-and-effect. The aircraft scheduled for the graveyard will be sent there quicker and those that aren't will either be parked or sent somewhere else. Crew planning and forecasting most likely has no idea either. What ISN'T going to happen is some last minute reversal of fortune. Just an opinion from your Uncle MuMu.
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Old 02-08-2011 | 09:23 AM
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1000 people left on the active seniority list?

How many people would you guess paid the merger fund assesment?
1500?

It goes without saying that ALPA national isn't much help in most pilots eyes, but I am amazed how much local Comair ALPA sucks.

Has anyone heard anything from these guys? Last I heard they were still pipe dreaming about merging with someone.

Why? Because obsorbing hundreds of 20 year captains is way more cost effective than just buying the airplanes from Comair and hiring off the street at 1st year pay?
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Old 02-08-2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
1000 people left on the active seniority list?

How many people would you guess paid the merger fund assesment?
1500?

It goes without saying that ALPA national isn't much help in most pilots eyes, but I am amazed how much local Comair ALPA sucks.

Has anyone heard anything from these guys? Last I heard they were still pipe dreaming about merging with someone.

Why? Because obsorbing hundreds of 20 year captains is way more cost effective than just buying the airplanes from Comair and hiring off the street at 1st year pay?
MESA MEC is more powerful then the Comair MEC
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Old 02-08-2011 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
1000 people left on the active seniority list?

How many people would you guess paid the merger fund assesment?
1500?

It goes without saying that ALPA national isn't much help in most pilots eyes, but I am amazed how much local Comair ALPA sucks.

Has anyone heard anything from these guys? Last I heard they were still pipe dreaming about merging with someone.

Why? Because obsorbing hundreds of 20 year captains is way more cost effective than just buying the airplanes from Comair and hiring off the street at 1st year pay?
Comair doesn't own any airplanes
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Old 02-08-2011 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
1000 people left on the active seniority list?

How many people would you guess paid the merger fund assesment?
1500?

It goes without saying that ALPA national isn't much help in most pilots eyes, but I am amazed how much local Comair ALPA sucks.

Has anyone heard anything from these guys? Last I heard they were still pipe dreaming about merging with someone.

Why? Because obsorbing hundreds of 20 year captains is way more cost effective than just buying the airplanes from Comair and hiring off the street at 1st year pay?
Comair Alpa sucks? Now that's not true. They have done an excellent job at screwing everyone on the last half of the seniority list, and as a final kicker screwed many many involuntary furloughees out of their travel benefits.

I wouldn't exactly advertise being a part of the Comair MEC or LEC if I were job hunting. Not only did they manager to anger the hand that feeds (Delta) they came after their own.
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Old 02-08-2011 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffdh17
Comair Alpa sucks? Now that's not true. They have done an excellent job at screwing everyone on the last half of the seniority list, and as a final kicker screwed many many involuntary furloughees out of their travel benefits.

I wouldn't exactly advertise being a part of the Comair MEC or LEC if I were job hunting. Not only did they manager to anger the hand that feeds (Delta) they came after their own.
Come on Jeff, be fair here. S3CR is awesome. Way better than S4. We get to watch all the buddy pass riders get removed from the airplane before us. That's like an extra 10-15 minutes of Delta comfort before they escort us off and give our seat to a retiree's adopted step-grandchild taking a friend on a buddy-pass and, therefore, trumping us too.

Also, I have really felt the love and appreciation with the emails stating something like: "Don't forget, we have XXX furloughed brothers. If you have any yardwork, sewage cleanup, need a guinea pig for a non-FDA approved drug trial or even just a crash test dummy - let us know so we can pass the word along."
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Old 02-08-2011 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
1000 people left on the active seniority list?
That's awesome -

6 years ago I was about 250 from the bottom.

And now it looks like I'm about 250 from the bottom.

At this rate when Comair has 250 pilots I'll be number one on the list!
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Old 02-10-2011 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffdh17
Comair Alpa sucks? Now that's not true. They have done an excellent job at screwing everyone on the last half of the seniority list, and as a final kicker screwed many many involuntary furloughees out of their travel benefits.
Not flamebait, but how were the invols screwed by ALPA out of their travel benefits?
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Old 02-10-2011 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by skywatch
Not flamebait, but how were the invols screwed by ALPA out of their travel benefits?
There was a measure that would have allowed invols, to bypass recall and thus keep their benefits vs. turning down recall altogether and losing said benefits. My understanding is that another measure was attached to it which was to add a no furlough clause in addition to the bypass allowance. As a result both measures failed and invols not returning upon recall had to resign rather than bypass causing the lose of the travel benefits.

That is what I was advised as to how it went down. If accurate then I'll go out on a limb and say......one takes what he can get when in the weaker position, which clearly the union was. But in the usual fashion, the parties negotiating were unaffected by the results and walked away with nothing but inflated egos. They really showed the managers didn't they?
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