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02-16-2011 | 08:39 AM

#20581

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Originally Posted by Lowlevel

Just a thought...there are protest all over the Middle East, with mobs of people chanting and yelling for change. If change is wanted, why don't the pilot and FA groups get together and do the same in CVG (or in ATL, where the true leadership is)? It changed the leadership in Egypt, it could work here

Those people actually have stones.

That and our worst day is still a million times better than their best day.

02-16-2011 | 09:39 AM

#20582

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Originally Posted by evilboy

Not sure if you'd consider this factual (but you can always check it in the Securities and Exchange Commission), but "rumor" has it the Pres/CEO of Pinnacle is a sibling of RA's wife. RA used to be a large shareholder in Pinnacle. However, when the talks to unload Mesaba to Pinnacle began, he had to "sell" those shares because it would be a conflict of interest. "Rumor" has it the buyer of said shares happens to be RA's wife. That's how they got around the SEC. So, what do you think?.

I think if that is true...RA should have some "splaining to do."

From what I've read on the "Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act" and the "Investor Protection and Securities Reform Act of 2010" there are direct responsibilities that executive officers can be held accountable for non-transparent motives.

I also believe that the SEC is now rewarding whistleblowers up to 30% of sanctions over 1 million imposed on fraudulent corporations that are exposed. This is geared more towards Investment Corporations practicing fradulent principles such as BLMIS. (Bernie L. Madoff Investment Securities)

Myself, I am not willing to go as far as attempting to expose corruption or make accusations against a billion dollar corporation such as Delta. From my limited knowledge of Finance, and law interpretation, I’m not willing to make accusations I could be held liable if not 100% accurate. Personally, I’m not willing to fight a Goliath of this magnitude, not without professional representation and assistance. I would want to make damn sure all my ducks were in a row before lighting that fuse.

I am however, interested in any lawsuits ALPA or anyone else has filed concerning unfair business practices. It would be interesting to bring closure to questions I’ve had about RA and Comair.

02-16-2011 | 12:01 PM

#20583

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Originally Posted by BlueMoon

Those people actually have stones.

That and our worst day is still a million times better than their best day.

Location, Location, Location. 90% of their problem is that they live in a horrible place.

As far as stones go...you're right. I'm just saying, if everyone complains about everything in the airline industry, get together and do something about it...or just shut up and quit complaining.

A goal accomplished leads to another success, then another, and so on. A goal that is left to die leads nowhere.

02-17-2011 | 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by INAV8OR

I dont think Comair was a billion dollar airline when RA became the head of Big D. What maliciously dismantled Comair was a strike for nothing and an MEC that has had the pipe dream of becoming part of Delta. Note to self dont bite the hand that feeds you. Look at ASA and Skywest, neither rocked the boat and both are doing well. Just my 2 cents from a guy who saw Comair Grow, get bought by Delta, then go on strike and since fall apart.

Well considering you watched comair so well you would have see it had its biggest grown ever was for the three years after the strike. When are you and the others like you going to realise the strike has nothing to do with what is happening now at comair. Managment loves the fact that idiots like you are never going to stand up to them because of your ignorant belief that comair is being dismantled because of the strike.
Grow up.

02-17-2011 | 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cmrflyer

Stand up how? demand what from what position of power? we struck for 89 days, did it cripple Delta? What did that strike even "win"? Would Delta even notice a strike now? Are you one of the people that thinks writing a nasty letter to RA is going to get your flight benefits back?

Wake up, man. Getting all rowdy just accelerates the demise, because at the end of the day, Comair LOSES Delta money, so why would you put up with that?

02-17-2011 | 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by skywatch

What on earth are you babeling about?
read the post again, I am stating the plain fact that comair grew after the strike at its fatsest rate ever. people blaming comairs demise on the strike are wrong.
what is the point of you post???

02-17-2011 | 08:43 AM

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I am "babeling" about the point that you said "Managment loves the fact that idiots like you are never going to stand up to them". I would assume that makes you an advocate for "standing up to them". So how are you going to do that?

We struck for 89 days. Yep, and we took delivery of all the airplanes that we had ordered. And when that order book closed, we started the shrinking. Did you forget that during that three years we went from three DCI carriers (Comair, Skywest, ASA) to something like Nine? You really think that had nothing to do with the strike?

02-17-2011 | 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cmrflyer

Well considering you watched comair so well you would have see it had its biggest grown ever was for the three years after the strike.

Actually, Comair still grew, but grew less rapidly in the two years after the strike. The first three months after the strike was spent getting pilots requalled, then hiring picked up again for about a year and a half as the 70s and 40s (ordered before the strike) were delivered.

By the end of 2003 hiring was winding down and only a couple new-hire classes were run in 2004-2005 until we took the dangling carrot from FredEx.

02-17-2011 | 12:17 PM

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Grow up, really? It's simple cause and effect. Comair struck and 89 days later got a TA that gave them the highest cost structure among it's competition. Thus it became very easy to undercut them and still be profitable. Delta is just doing what every large corporation does and tries to get its product cheaper

02-17-2011 | 02:45 PM

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Delta is just doing what every large corporation does and tries to get its product cheaper

And in the process turned a 1.5 billion dollar investment into junk and poured money into their competition (USAir, Frontier, Midwest) through third parties (Republic, etc).