Originally Posted by blackbox

Skywest to absorb the rest of mesa after they furlough? Is this true? Friend there said they're taking Mesa and Freedom 700 and 900 with pilots...? I'm on my phone and don't want to read through all the post.

Originally Posted by Lowlevel

Freedom had no -900's....well, they once did, but they were taken away by DAL when they canceled their 900 contract about a year and a half ago. The only thing Freedom had when they shut down was a bunch of crappy ERJ-145's (without the w&b mod).

Originally Posted by Fly2lunch

So any other ideas to what Delta will do with these 32 70/90 seaters they have just lying around?

Originally Posted by irrelevant

"Mach point six-four, Comair XXXX."

Duh, of course crew costs are going to be higher. Even if book rates were the exact same, when you expect your pilots to fly 10% slower than any other pilot in the DCI network, guess what? Your Comair pilots are going to be 10% less productive, or viewed another way, 10% more expensive.

Sad to write this, but perhaps Comair would be best served by replacing the 50-seaters with elephants. That would be more fitting for the circus Delta has made, or allowed local "management" to make, of what used to be a quite competent airline.

Originally Posted by irrelevant

That's interesting.

JB: "Take another 10% pay cut across the board and Delta will give you preferential hiring."

Comair Pilot <3 years on property: "That sounds great! Sign me up!"

Comair Pilot >3 years on property: "Wait a minute. You promised us growth in exchange for concessions in 2005. That didn't happen. You promised we'd be "competitive" if we took concessions during bankruptcy in the year you testified under oath we were projected to earn $50 million. In exchange for those concessions, you got rid of half the fleet we were operating at the time."

JB: "That was like six Presidents ago. I'm on your side. After all, you can see how much better things have gotten since I came here nearly two years ago."

Comair Pilot <3 years on property: "You senior pilots are just in my way. You need to move on so I can upgrade and flow through to Delta. JB has always looked out for our best interest."

JB during subsequent phone call to Atlanta: "Just look at these idiots. We've got them fighting among themselves. There is no unity to worry about. In just a few months, they'll vote anything in."

Six months later......

JB: "Well folks, thanks for the concessions you agreed to in order to be competitive. As a result, we were able to sell the company to Mesa."

Comair Pilot <3 years: "What about my flowthrough?"

JB: "We're looking into that. Word is Delta is going to take the most senior fifty."

Comair Pilot <3 years: "But you made that agreement with all of us!"

JB: "That's true, but it doesn't matter, because I just do what Atlanta tells me to. By the way, I just got promoted to be the Vice President in charge of Delta Connection. Aren't you happy for me?"

Comair Pilot >3 years: "**********, when are we going to stop selling our skills and abilities short?"

Comair Pilot <3 years: "Shut up. Just be thankful I haven't pushed you down the aircraft stairs yet to get you out of the way of my upgrade."

Originally Posted by Pilotguy143

Is anyone going to hear ng4 talk in dtw today? I would go, except I'm tired of hearing that our costs are too high.