We aren't that much more expensive! Management just wants you to believe that we are. Our crew cost is down close to 40% of what it use to be. I find it hard to believe that we are still too expensive.

we have eliminated massive amounts of overhead in the GO and elsewhere. New John has stated in meetings(according to the chief pilot update in ground schoo) that we are getting very close to DCI average per block hour.

02-02-2009 | 09:11 AM

#12062

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From: Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoilers

You just don't get it, do you?

WE ARE TOO EXPENSIVE!! NOBODY WILL PICK COMAIR!

Notice the last few words in the sentence- then away we go....
I will translate- simply put, that means you or I will go to try and get hired by the airline that may put out an RFP for their loss of Mesa flying.

Whether its' Express Jet, AWAC, or others. I have seen heard read the memo about even if Delta prevails, Comair won't see any more flying. I "get" it and I'm sure that won't stop you from putting in an App and interviewing with those airlines. Now do you see what I was getting at? Clear as mud?

02-02-2009 | 09:16 AM

#12063

evilboy

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From: "if it's got wings, I can crash it".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver Driver

Take a look at our pilot seniority list and/or the FA list. Hundreds of pilots and flight attendants were hired before I was even born.... Add that to the fact that they are topped out on the pay scale and you have the recipe for a top heavy, expensive labor cost. Most of the cost issues in the GO and other areas have been solved with downsizing the support operation to our current fleet size... but if you compare us with other airlines like Mesaba, Mesa, Chautauqua, etc, our pilot group is on average much older on the seniority scale directly impacting our cost. Until these guys leave for other jobs or retire, it will continue to be that way.

Yes and no. Again by comparison all those other airlines have just about the same percentage of lifers we do. We were bigger at one point, but operating costs due to rank and file pilots were pretty much the same as most those companies. Also rememeber this, at Comair's a person stayed an F/O much much longer than in any of other company -except American Giggles-. So if you take into account the fact what a 3 years pilot -an F/O- makes here, versus a 3 years pilot -a Captain- makes on those other companies, who do you think ultimately has a greater overhead -pilot related only-?.

02-02-2009 | 10:27 AM

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JetPilotMike

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From: CRJ, CR7, A320, B737

NY Unemployment

Just wondering how it has worked out for the guys that were based at JFK but live in other states and filing with NY for unemployment benefits. I have to file with either NY or IL but NY has a higher weekly payout. Looking for any pitfalls when talking with them.

Thanks.

02-02-2009 | 10:30 AM

#12065

makersmarc

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From: OH CA - Retired

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobSakamano

I agree. It would be better to go out fighting and having caring employees like ACA/FlyI than wasting away in the Delta cancer ward.

By the way, when the opinion does come out (probably affirming the Mesa injunction), it will be posted on the Eleventh Circuit Court - Atlanta website.

Thanks for the link.

02-02-2009 | 11:16 AM

#12066

Lowlevel

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From: Big...So Big

On a happy note, I got my fourth quarter profit sharing check today!!!!!! My my my, what will I do with all $55.00 of it??? Hmmmm, the choices of what I can do with that much money are limitless! I know.......I'll use it to buy mac & cheese and some Ramen Noodle Soup, since I have no freaking job!

But you know me, I can't complain

02-02-2009 | 11:17 AM

#12067

Lowlevel

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From: Big...So Big

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowlevel

Ooooooo, I know what to do with the money!!!!!!!!
I'm going to buy 367 shares of Mesa Stock!!!!!

02-02-2009 | 11:35 AM

#12068

Alknew182

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From: FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by On Autopilot

\ I have seen heard read the memo about even if Delta prevails, Comair won't see any more flying.\

Could you post the memo cause I have not seen it...

02-02-2009 | 11:43 AM

#12069

andy171773

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From: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737

I guess only 16 people have signed up for the buyout so far.

02-02-2009 | 11:52 AM

#12070

TurboDog

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Originally Posted by andy171773

I guess only 16 people have signed up for the buyout so far.

This is true. If they would offer travel bennies on interline carriers they would get more takers. Many folk commute to work on airlines other than Delta and Comair and therefor it's not a benefit to them.