YouTube - south park-they took our jobs!!!

 

The quick and dirty version:

Let's say your on A4, 8am-10pm

Day 4 of your trip, you report at 9am and block into CVG at 4pm, released at 4:20pm. If you do not talk to scheduling at all, you are back into your window, subject to be called back, until the close of your window at 10pm, also subject to 13.5 hours from 9am.
If you talk to scheduling and they have nothing else for you and you are released, you are released to rest at 4:20pm for 10 hours, or until 2:20am (which is then outside of your window), so you're done until your next window).

Basically, what happens when you don't call scheduling when you get back, you are released into your window, subject to call out within the 13 1/2 hour duty day and/or end of window. But I thought I remember reading that even if you are in an A4 window and report at 6am, you can only be used until 7:30pm duty wise, but they can still call you to notify you of a trip until 10pm (but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong).

It gets tricky when you report and release before your window even starts. If I remember correctly, you are released into 10 hours of rest, then into whatever remains of your window. This is usually only common for the A6 window and beyond, but I guess it possible for the A5 and maybe A4 for a super early flight.

The moral of the story, if you finish a trip and nothing is on your line, it's probably in your best interest to call scheduling and get something else or get released. They've been really good at just releasing into rest lately.

 

I think it's ridiculous to have 40 guys on reserve today in DTW!

 

A word of warning for flight crews:

Ops Manual revision 20 was effective at the start of operational day 09/04
<and>
Jeppesen revision 18 was effective on 09/03

Both were not distributed to CVG crews until late 09/07 or early 09/08.

Suggest you file an ASAP report if you operated any flights during the 09/03-09/07-08 timeframe. Ops manual 20 includes a significant change to the paperwork.

 

Somebody in CVG run down to the CNN bus in Covington, get on TV, and say "Dayyyytoookrrrrrrrrjiiiirrrrrbs!"

 

who took your jobs?

 

I don't call scheduling. I make them call me.

Unless you want to fly more....

 

JB tookrrrrrjiiirrbs...he was placed here to tear OH down and close it up. The same guy that replaced the mechanics at NWA when they went on strike. For those that think its just a "scare tactic" for contract negotiations....good luck with that. The end is near, and it's a lot nearer for some of us....the ones that just came back after a year and a half.

I just wish someone around here would be honest with people, in a timely manner.
Examples?
1.Had a job making twice as much as here (non-flying). Got recalled. OH called and asked if I'd be coming back. I asked where my base would be (I would not have come back if it was CVG). Guy says JFK...I say ok.
Get to class, still no mention of closing JFK. Middle of ground school "Oh, by the way....DTW"
Commute becomes a pain (DTW is a pain from FL). Start looking at homes in MI. Other people already relocate to MI. Start planning a move to MI.
Around 2am 8/31, read EPIC, free breakfast and lunch to welcome us to DTW. Alright! Free food during my RR on 9/1. Get to DTW for RR....oh, by the way....you'll most likely be furloughed in the 2nd quarter of 2011....but hey, enjoy the bagels!

2. Comair closes JFK base, stating "DAL only wants NY service in aircraft with a first class cabin.
Pinnacle moving into our old JFK OPS as a CRJ200 BASE!!!! Their 900's will stay based in ATL.
Ask management why we moved out, they say "1st class...blah blah blah"

3. Comair says "DAL does not want inefficient 50 seaters. We will get rid of them." YET, Pinnacle adding 160 pilots by years end...to fly CRJ200s!

In almost 4 years, I have heard nothing from this management besides "We cost too much." "We pay pilots too much." "We pay FAs too much." "We can't compete with Pinnacle or ASA."
Never have I heard a good thing from them...like "We are going to grow." or "We are going to exchange our older planes for new ones."

Just look at the Pilot Agreement....it too has lies in it (E170 Pay Scale???)....they never ever planned on getting those planes, they just said it to keep us happy!

OK, enough venting

 

Does anyone know who is going to offer us preferential interviews? I have heard we do get preferential interviews with Delta. Does anyone know of any others?

 

We ended up finding a pretty nice hotel that costs the same as the crappy, run-down hotels in the same area, I'm surprised not more crews are staying here, but people are too lazy to do any research.

Most hotels in this area will let you 'rent' a room (some have suites) and run it as a crashpad, meaning you can re-arrange it and stick as many people in it as you want. I've heard some guys renting a room with 6-8 people in it. Most I've heard is 11. That's ok if you have a bunch of lineholder, but on reserve.... the last thing I want to do is sit reserve in a room with 6 other dudes. There are currently 3 in my pad and we are looking for one more, but that'll be it! The rent will be about the same as a crashpad in JFK ($200-$250). Shuttle service 24/7, free continental breakfast, bunch of restaurants in the area. Beats camping out in the crew room...