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07-17-2011 | 06:59 PM
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From: Tiki bar
Nevermind the above, for those who need more info, check your email from ALPA. Looks like 55 pilots who have been on continuous furlough are eligible. I'm seriously considering taking this, might be a good deal, since I'll never be back anyway.
07-17-2011 | 07:19 PM
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My question: Is "completed years of service" based on date of hire through furlough date or DOH through 12/21/2012? It's not really clear. Common sense says DOH through furlough.
Greater common sense says "Why pay furloughed pilots anything?"
Also, are the flight benefits the same S3CR as on furlough? No clear answer there either.
Greater common sense says "Why pay furloughed pilots anything?"
Also, are the flight benefits the same S3CR as on furlough? No clear answer there either.
07-17-2011 | 07:29 PM
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That's my question too bro. I think it should be DOH through 12/21/12. In our case that would be 5 years. We may be on furlough, but for a lot of other things we are still considered employed because we have a SN#. That may not do anything for longevity but I think it should be considered towards years of service.
07-18-2011 | 07:12 AM
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Maybe this will help some of you furloughed guys:
Q. Who may be eligible for the voluntary Early-Out Program?
A. The voluntary Early-Out Program is available to scale (Crew Schedulers, Crew scheduling
Coordinators, Avionic Technicians, Dispatchers and Lead Dispatchers) and contract
employees (IAM, ALPA, IBT). Eligible employees who are active, on furlough or government
(military) leave must have at least five (5) years of continuous service (from the most recent
date of hire) as of December 31, 2012.
Eligible employees currently on an approved leave of absence (excluding government leave
and furlough) who were on an active status on or after January 1, 2011 may be eligible to
participate.
Merit-eligible employees (non-contract, non-scale) are not eligible for this program, with the
exception of Maintenance Inspectors.Coordinators, Avionic Technicians, Dispatchers and Lead Dispatchers) and contract
employees (IAM, ALPA, IBT). Eligible employees who are active, on furlough or government
(military) leave must have at least five (5) years of continuous service (from the most recent
date of hire) as of December 31, 2012.
Eligible employees currently on an approved leave of absence (excluding government leave
and furlough) who were on an active status on or after January 1, 2011 may be eligible to
participate.
Merit-eligible employees (non-contract, non-scale) are not eligible for this program, with the
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07-18-2011 | 07:26 AM
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From: awkward & cramped
My question: Is "completed years of service" based on date of hire through furlough date or DOH through 12/21/2012? It's not really clear. Common sense says DOH through furlough.
Greater common sense says "Why pay furloughed pilots anything?"
Also, are the flight benefits the same S3CR as on furlough? No clear answer there either.
Greater common sense says "Why pay furloughed pilots anything?"
Also, are the flight benefits the same S3CR as on furlough? No clear answer there either.
Thanks to MP, got the answer. Completed years of service is DOH through date of separation (buyout). So for guys hired in 2007, it will be 8-10 weeks of pay depending on separation date.
The flight benefits are: yield fare S3CR
For the life of me, I can't figure how management signed off on a windfall to furloughs who would never be on property again anyway.
07-18-2011 | 07:46 AM
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07-18-2011 | 07:46 AM
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The eligibility list shows everyone through employee number 29413 (with just a couple of exceptions) eligible.
The travel bennies last for a period of time equal to your YOS. It's yield fare s3cr, but it is on ALL DCI carriers as well as mainline. No Buddy passes, no confirmed for less fares or zed fares.
Why would they do it?
-finite end to your travel benefits
-if they ever do rehire, everyone will be at first yr pay vs 5+ yr pay
-if a merger, no baggage of xxx # of furloughed pilots to deal with
as well as numerous other reasons...all not good for those that stay...
Enjoy your windfall.
And thank your union!
The travel bennies last for a period of time equal to your YOS. It's yield fare s3cr, but it is on ALL DCI carriers as well as mainline. No Buddy passes, no confirmed for less fares or zed fares.
Why would they do it?
-finite end to your travel benefits
-if they ever do rehire, everyone will be at first yr pay vs 5+ yr pay
-if a merger, no baggage of xxx # of furloughed pilots to deal with
as well as numerous other reasons...all not good for those that stay...
Enjoy your windfall.
And thank your union!
07-18-2011 | 07:47 AM
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My question is, why wouldn't we take it? Ive been on furlough since 2008 as well and am eligible for the early out. Are there any advantages to not taking the early out? The only advantage I see for not taking it is flight benefits.
07-18-2011 | 07:53 AM
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‪The Best of Ben Jabituya / Short Circuit‬‏ - YouTube
Watch 1:40 through 1:53. Pretty much sums up your options.
Watch 1:40 through 1:53. Pretty much sums up your options.
07-18-2011 | 08:06 AM
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From: awkward & cramped
My question: Is "completed years of service" based on date of hire through furlough date or DOH through 12/21/2012? It's not really clear. Common sense says DOH through furlough.
Greater common sense says "Why pay furloughed pilots anything?"
Also, are the flight benefits the same S3CR as on furlough? No clear answer there either.
Greater common sense says "Why pay furloughed pilots anything?"
Also, are the flight benefits the same S3CR as on furlough? No clear answer there either.
Unless...Delta is doing with Comair what NWA did with Mesaba. Then, we'd be giving them carte blanche to hire at first year pay after the giant a** whoopin' ceases.
Part of me wonders if Delta actually wants to hang on to one wholly owned subsidiary and this is all to do with contract negotiations and the upcoming impact from new time/duty limitations.
I'm speculating 100%. Working elsewhere and am VERY out of touch with what is really going on at Shrinkair.
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