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Old 07-02-2012, 03:54 PM
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Well some of us riding the ship down refuse to go work for another regional airline. I will not chase an upgrade. Gojets was the only gig in town for the quick upgrade. No one else has any movement!
Oh, I didn't know that you didn't want to work for another regional airline. You should have said that right away. Text ENTITLEMENT to 555-quit for instant hire into 777. Hurry the 1st 100 people will get a Captains Slot at 227,000/yr. See you as I drive past the soup line.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:43 PM
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Inav8or, it must make you feel pretty good kicking people while they are down. Stay classy, you perpetuate the reputation that your pilot group has always had. Keep up the good work.

BitterOHFO, as far as not wanting to start over, I completely understand your sentiment. I felt the same way. Furthermore, chasing the quick upgrade felt like I would only be hurting the industry more by participating in the race to the bottom.

There are jobs out there where you do not need to have PIC Turbine time. The pay will out-pace Delta pay throughout your career advancement. You will see parts of the world that you could only dream of as an international legacy pilot and you will start to look at the super-premium widebody 777 as a light twin.

Think outside the box a little and take the chance. If your at Comair, the grass on the other side of the fence actually is greener.

Good Luck!
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by INAV8OR View Post
Oh, I didn't know that you didn't want to work for another regional airline. You should have said that right away. Text ENTITLEMENT to 555-quit for instant hire into 777. Hurry the 1st 100 people will get a Captains Slot at 227,000/yr. See you as I drive past the soup line.
seriously...I tried it and haven't gotten a response yet....did i loose out? oh well, i guess I'll go back to the makers...(fyi i don't work for comair but room with a couple of them)
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville View Post
Inav8or, it must make you feel pretty good kicking people while they are down. Stay classy, you perpetuate the reputation that your pilot group has always had. Keep up the good work.

Think outside the box a little and take the chance. If your at Comair, the grass on the other side of the fence actually is greener.

Good Luck!
First of all, its called tough love, if you read all the posts you will see that I was in a similar spot. That place has their pilot group so beat down. They all think they are not worth crap. And it shows. If you want to work there forever, great, but if you want to get a job at a major. Leave get your pic time and move on. There is no shame in that. The guys that choose to leave and get an upgrade will just be 4 to 5 yrs sr to you. We had a 6 yr cmr guy that left to start over at compass on the jumpseat a few weeks ago. He said leaving was the best thing for him and his sole.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:16 AM
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I left after 6.5 years and it was the best feeling ever.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by INAV8OR View Post
Oh, I didn't know that you didn't want to work for another regional airline. You should have said that right away. Text ENTITLEMENT to 555-quit for instant hire into 777. Hurry the 1st 100 people will get a Captains Slot at 227,000/yr. See you as I drive past the soup line.
That's the dumbest thing I've seen....how is spending 12-15 years or more at a regional, and then not wanting to do that crap all over again for 20K on reserve with no upgrade in sight, entitlement?
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BitterOHFO View Post
Well some of us riding the ship down refuse to go work for another regional airline. I will not chase an upgrade. Gojets was the only gig in town for the quick upgrade. No one else has any movement!
Plenty of guys, including FOs with little or no TPIC, have moved on without going to another regional, or to a major, for that matter. If you're willing to look beyond just pax flying, other outfits have been doing lots of hiring.
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That's the dumbest thing I've seen....how is spending 12-15 years or more at a regional, and then not wanting to do that crap all over again for 20K on reserve with no upgrade in sight, entitlement?
Appartently you didn't read all the msgs. Some people feel like hanging out at a dying airline and want to be entitled to a job at a major without PIC time. Just because someone is an FO at OH for 6 to 9 yrs doesn't entitle them to be at a major, nor should they just sit and watch the world go by with out them. My point is, a person that stays at an airline where there is more downgrades than upgrades, may want to move on. Go to GL or Silver or what ever, put in 3 to 4 yrs, move to a major and be done with being a lifetime RJ FO. Or they can stay there and rot away for 15 yrs until they upgrade, then rot away for another 20 yrs till they die. Its an easy choice.
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Originally Posted by INAV8OR View Post
Appartently you didn't read all the msgs. Some people feel like hanging out at a dying airline and want to be entitled to a job at a major without PIC time. Just because someone is an FO at OH for 6 to 9 yrs doesn't entitle them to be at a major, nor should they just sit and watch the world go by with out them. My point is, a person that stays at an airline where there is more downgrades than upgrades, may want to move on. Go to GL or Silver or what ever, put in 3 to 4 yrs, move to a major and be done with being a lifetime RJ FO. Or they can stay there and rot away for 15 yrs until they upgrade, then rot away for another 20 yrs till they die. Its an easy choice.
ok I'll buy that ...
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[QUOTE=8hourrule;1222654]Remind me again how the Delta TA created Delta jobs. 717 will replace dc-9 757 767 that are getting old. All of those work rule "improvements" that were voted in will further reduce the number of Delta jobs that are out there. I am bitter and I have every right to be. Glad things are working out for you though...........
Remind us again how the 717 will replace a 767.
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