8hourrule

Remind me again how the Delta TA created Delta jobs. 717 will replace dc-9 757 767 that are getting old. All of those work rule "improvements" that were voted in will further reduce the number of Delta jobs that are out there. I am bitter and I have every right to be. Glad things are working out for you though............

INAV8OR

AddYou have every right to be bitter? Get real. I wasted away at that dump for 10 yrs, 9500 hrs in the "loser cruiser". If your so bitter quit! Find another job. Oh I can't take a pay cut, oh I don't want to commute, oh me wo as me. I bet you are one of those 300 hr wonders that I had to give OE to after they turned you loose on line. Now you have 4000 hrs in the right seat no hopes of up grading. This industry is a bi***, you find the quickest way out and take it. If that means flying a caravan or 1900 to get some PIC time then do it. I paid 12k for my job at crustair, knowing I would move to the left seat in less than 2 yrs spend 3 yrs as a CA and be on my way. Unfortunatly, 9/11 and the enconomy took that dream out. So I spent 8 yrs as CA, KS and SB told me I was dumb for leaving, along with 10 or 15 other guys. Well, they are downgraded, I am here. I didn't vote for that TA bc scope wasn't strong enough. Your 50 seaters were leaving either way. Oh, the 73 900 will be replacng airframes too. We will have a net increase in airframes, along with at least 300 early retirements. So, don't tell me you have a right to be bitter. Sack up, get another job and start over before the rest of the cmr fo's get forced to start over. Good luck.

makersmarc

This part is true. I hope the DL negotiating committee didn't waste any negotiating capital getting the CR2 reduction in there. That (CR2 reduction) would be happening in any case.

johnso29

MD90's will replace some DC9's. B737-900ERs MAY replace some B757/767's and some older 320's. With 25 MD90's, 88 B717's, and 100 B737-900ERs(with 30 more options)coming over the next few years it's unlikely hiring will not happen. The B737-900ERs are cash flow positive from Day 1 which means they can easily be used as growth aircraft.

Red Forman

You have no one to blame but yourself for still working at a sinking ship. The writing has been on the wall for years. The smart ones found employment at places that had better prospects. I felt bad for myself too when I was working there because no good news came our way. So I worked my ass off to find something better and I did, and I couldn't be happier. When life gives you a turd sandwich you can either eat it or you can grill filet mignon and enjoy life.

captainv

I don't want to pile on, but I must admit I'm shocked at how many good guys I know that are still at Comair who are just apathetic about the whole thing and aren't doing much about it. I was looking to leave from the day I downgraded, but the Sept. 2010 announcement kicked the search into high gear.

I can understand the reluctance of senior captains (top 25%) to make a move, as anything would be a massive pay cut for them. I think they assumed that if they ever did downgrade, worst case they could be FOs indefinitely while they looked for a job.

But for junior captains and FOs to not be out there shaking the trees (or finishing up that degree) for the past two years, that I don't understand.

INAV8OR

You should pile on! This group needs a kick in ths a@@. I don't know how many times I have heard, "I am just riding the ship down, or I will lock the doors on my way out." Just bc so many guys don't think there is anything else to do. Anyone under 31, work for ATC, that's the best gig out there. If you miss flying, go rent something.

DAL4EVER

88 717s. 36 more 90s I believe. 100 737-900s. Some will replace older planes. But getting 61% of the domestic flying means we will be adding jobs. Simple. You can be bitter. But you also chose to stay there. I made the choice to leave 11+ years ago. Furlough stung but I always knew as long as the airline survived I'd come back. The regionals have never offered that stability. As long as your core product is farmed out labor you will always be at risk of getting cut. The end game at the regionals is beginning. With luck, that means the majors will take their flying back. You can stew about your fate. Or you can study for an interview and take control of it. I can tell you everyday I'm thankful for the path I've been blessed enough to have.

BitterOHFO

Well some of us riding the ship down refuse to go work for another regional airline. I will not chase an upgrade. Gojets was the only gig in town for the quick upgrade. No one else has any movement!

cmrflyer

Silver Airways has very quick upgrades. It's all about 121 PIC.