"I got hosed on L2 today. 8:55 they call me to come sit ready at 21:00. So I have a 3hr ready, but will get paid 4:20, plus I have a trip tomorrow. This makes my head hurt. Sometimes seniorty based call-outs override logic"


Section "24 O 5" A reserve pilot may be reassigned from one (1) reserve period or classification to another reserve period or classification provided he is notified of the reassignment prior to the start of the reserve period or classification from which he is being reassigned.

Call them and tell them to take it off

 

I think you guys are reading the contract wrong. Nowhere does it say that a LC reserve assignment must start within their window. That would make no sense. That would mean a LC1 pilot could only report between 1400-1500 (9 hour call out from 0500-1500) and LC2 pilot could not be used at all. That would completely defeat the purpose of having a long call window.

Para 12-G-1-e-(1) states LC2 pilots use a 12 hour call out and the time preceding will be used as legal rest. Yes it states that a LC reserve follows the same rules as SC, but this case is under the exceptions paragraph.

Also, nowhere in the contract does it say that LC reserves cannot be assigned a ready reserve.

I probably didn't explain me reasoning thoroughly here, but hopefully you guys might see the other side of the coin

Additionally, with the union filing an overall grievance about the readys, what would come from it? What would we get if the grievance was awarded to the union? Is that like some sort of class action lawsuit? What I think would happen is they'd agree to a MOU that LCs can do readys, and can report at any time, following their required 9/12 hour rest..

 

I was pre-notified of the change.

 

Alright, let me get this straight. I'm assuming they notified you of your L2 yesterday or a few days ago. So, today you are on L2 (0700-0900 & 1700-1900). They called you this morning at 0855 to notify you of a 2100-2400 ready reserve. Now, if I read the contract correctly, your ready reserve has to fall within your reserve window, which is 1700-1900. 2100-2400 does not fall in your reserve window. If they would have changed it to A6 or A7, then it would make sense.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Unless there is some loop hole around this L2 for ready reserve this assignment is illegal.

 

That's what I was trying to say in my previous post. The way I read the contract, a LC reserve assignment does not have to commence within one of the windows. That's the reason for the 9/12 rest period. If that was the case, an L2 pilot could, by definition, never get used unless pre-notified. If you were called between 0700-0900, 12 hours later would be outside of your window. So therefore the 12 hour call out would be redundant and impossible. It would have to be a 24 hour call out and/or a prenotify-only reserve pilot. and the L1 window would be legal to report for just 1 hour per day. That would make a Long Call pilot completely useless.

 

My original post was not attempting to point out an illegal assignment. The assignment is legal. It is completely legal to the contract. That's what makes it a bad assignment. They wanted to have a ready reserve pilot in tonight. I was next for callout in line of contractual seniority (RR is a 1 day assignment, I was the junior reserve with 1 day of availability), except they had to give me 12 hour call out because I got stuck on L2 today. So that meant that I could not come in and sit until 2100 (after all of the flights leave.....Saturday only has 1/2 of the nightly "superpush").
What my original intent was to point out that this illogical assignment isn't a result of crew scheduling, it is a result of our wonderful contract.

Someone earlier commented that LC reserves should only get assignments that are 9+ hours out and SC get anything within that time frame. I completely agree. But language in the contract and schedulers manual says do not take window into account. If it is 0600 and there is a 2 day trip that reports at 1630, and there is a junior A5 reserve and a senior L1 reserve, both with 2 days of availability, common sense would state that the L1 pilot should get used and to save the A5 for something that might come up later in the day, but the contract prohibits that from happening.

 

Has anyone ever FedExed themselves in/out of CVG? If so, where do you go? Where do you check in?

 

What is 'VP' on SBS?

 

C'mon Driver! Pay attention. We just discussed this.

Actually, its some sort of vacation payout. It's kinda like a PL day, but you get paid for it from your vacation bank. I'm not too sure how it works actually.

 

Yeah, yeah...

I've seen it on people's line as PL and VP. So, I guess you can take a Personal Leave day and get paid for it by using a VP?

How can you get PL? Do you have to get approval from a chief pilot?