Comair updates?
#321
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: CRJ F/O
Posts: 50
Chow,
It seems their are always rumors of us being sold. If you look back historically Comair was in a great situation before Daddy Delta bought us. The biggest reason Delta bought us was we could have taken CVG away from them and also made a run like Independence tried.
In the current DCI carrier scheme i dont see Delta being able to sale Comair. They have no contract with us so if they need to reduce DCI load it happens at comair with no penalty. If they need to raise DCI load it happens at Comair for the short term because they do not have to pay a premium to one of the other DCI carriers.
I am rather new to Comair but from a business prespective I just dont see Delta selling us off just yet. Cash flow wise to buyout another major I think we may be used to be the ones to buy the carrier for Delta with them pumping cash our way. Delta pilots are a strong group and I do not think a merger would go over well. They purchased Western something like 25 years ago and their is still a fence on how many Western pilots can fly a widebody.
Being sold off and maybe picking up flying under a diffrent brand could be fun!
Just food for thought what do I know though I fly the plane were they tell me to go. I no longer have to make those type of descissions.
It seems their are always rumors of us being sold. If you look back historically Comair was in a great situation before Daddy Delta bought us. The biggest reason Delta bought us was we could have taken CVG away from them and also made a run like Independence tried.
In the current DCI carrier scheme i dont see Delta being able to sale Comair. They have no contract with us so if they need to reduce DCI load it happens at comair with no penalty. If they need to raise DCI load it happens at Comair for the short term because they do not have to pay a premium to one of the other DCI carriers.
I am rather new to Comair but from a business prespective I just dont see Delta selling us off just yet. Cash flow wise to buyout another major I think we may be used to be the ones to buy the carrier for Delta with them pumping cash our way. Delta pilots are a strong group and I do not think a merger would go over well. They purchased Western something like 25 years ago and their is still a fence on how many Western pilots can fly a widebody.
Being sold off and maybe picking up flying under a diffrent brand could be fun!
Just food for thought what do I know though I fly the plane were they tell me to go. I no longer have to make those type of descissions.
#322
To sell or not to sell
MP,
Some good points but I would have to point out one flaw....Airline management doesn't seem to care about how pilot groups integrate. Now what was even funnier was that this captain seemed certain Delta was going to buy either Jet Blue or NorthWest. I can't see that happening but then again I wouldn't have seen US Airways bid for Delta either.
But I still wonder how important CVG is to big D? Even though Delta has brought other DCI folks in there, Comair still has the most flights out of there.
When do you think you can hold a line in CVG? Or are you going to come back to JFK?
Some good points but I would have to point out one flaw....Airline management doesn't seem to care about how pilot groups integrate. Now what was even funnier was that this captain seemed certain Delta was going to buy either Jet Blue or NorthWest. I can't see that happening but then again I wouldn't have seen US Airways bid for Delta either.
But I still wonder how important CVG is to big D? Even though Delta has brought other DCI folks in there, Comair still has the most flights out of there.
When do you think you can hold a line in CVG? Or are you going to come back to JFK?
#323
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: CRJ F/O
Posts: 50
MP,
Some good points but I would have to point out one flaw....Airline management doesn't seem to care about how pilot groups integrate. Now what was even funnier was that this captain seemed certain Delta was going to buy either Jet Blue or NorthWest. I can't see that happening but then again I wouldn't have seen US Airways bid for Delta either.
But I still wonder how important CVG is to big D? Even though Delta has brought other DCI folks in there, Comair still has the most flights out of there.
When do you think you can hold a line in CVG? Or are you going to come back to JFK?
Some good points but I would have to point out one flaw....Airline management doesn't seem to care about how pilot groups integrate. Now what was even funnier was that this captain seemed certain Delta was going to buy either Jet Blue or NorthWest. I can't see that happening but then again I wouldn't have seen US Airways bid for Delta either.
But I still wonder how important CVG is to big D? Even though Delta has brought other DCI folks in there, Comair still has the most flights out of there.
When do you think you can hold a line in CVG? Or are you going to come back to JFK?
I could see Jet Blue as a purchase or Northwest. Jet Blue would become the JFK feeder and the gates are already their. And northwest from an international market would make sense not much overlap. But who knows. For that matter managment probably doesnt know anything yet too early with a new CEO of Delta and Pres of Comair. Unless Don was given his gloden parchute, for saying Yes Sir any time Real Managment called, before the sale is announced.
I was thinking of heading back to JFK to hopefully hold a line in January, If the pace keeps up but now that Jet Blue has announced their pulling out of Columbus in January the commute would be tougher. So I may stay put in CVG and would expect a crappy line in Feb or Mar. Hard to tell the true time table for CVG with guys moving over to the 70/90 list and MCO guys moving in this week. Next month on a ready I will sit down with the transfer list and see how many numbers will move in CVG and JFK before I really make up my mind.
#324
I don't think Delta would lose their dominance, but CVG is ripe for a low cost carrier. If Comair is sold (which I think will happen in the next year or so), I think you'll see them go after other flying for another carrier. Delta is trying to get us flying for another carrier now. After all, they will make money on that flying and that adds to Delta's bottom line. Unfortunately, Comair's costs are too high to win any of the flying.
#325
From what I have heard at the interview you will now have to take a 25 question test which is made up of ATP written questions... so if you have not taken the test and are coming for an interview then I suggest you take it...
Hope to see you all here soon everyone that comes brings me that much closer to a line..haha
Hope to see you all here soon everyone that comes brings me that much closer to a line..haha
#326
Cost too high?
I don't think Delta would lose their dominance, but CVG is ripe for a low cost carrier. If Comair is sold (which I think will happen in the next year or so), I think you'll see them go after other flying for another carrier. Delta is trying to get us flying for another carrier now. After all, they will make money on that flying and that adds to Delta's bottom line. Unfortunately, Comair's costs are too high to win any of the flying.
#327
This will not happen, as Delta will not allow it. Several of the smaller LCCs have come in to CVG, only to be driven out by Delta. CVG has plenty of smaller cities within reasonable distance that are served by the LCCs that they pretty much already have the area under control.
#328
I don't think Delta would lose their dominance, but CVG is ripe for a low cost carrier. If Comair is sold (which I think will happen in the next year or so), I think you'll see them go after other flying for another carrier. Delta is trying to get us flying for another carrier now. After all, they will make money on that flying and that adds to Delta's bottom line. Unfortunately, Comair's costs are too high to win any of the flying.
#329
Speculation
Comair cost is not too high where do you get that from, have you seen their rates lately after the pay cut, they are on par or industry standard at this point. Lets face it none of us has a magic ball and non of us know what management will do in the next week much less the next year or two so why speculate...
Only because it gives me something to do while I sit ready.
#330
Comair cost is not too high where do you get that from, have you seen their rates lately after the pay cut, they are on par or industry standard at this point. Lets face it none of us has a magic ball and non of us know what management will do in the next week much less the next year or two so why speculate...
"so why speculate..."
That's what everyone does and that is mostly what you find on web boards - speculation.
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