If thats the case then comair will be expensive for a very long time, I dont think the very senior guys are going anywhere at least why should they when they would have to start out at the bottom again, if I were they I would stay put aswell..

 

True. I've been at Comair almost 12 years. My pay rate is right at $75/hr (damn that makes me sick). I am trying to leave and go to a legacy or cargo carrier. I don't see many above me leaving or trying to leave. I think some get comfortable with their situation or justify it in terms of the years it would take to get back to where they were. For someone making $85 per hr, it would take about 7-8 years to make what they were making before. That, along with being based in JFK, EWR, DTW, or other junior cities seals the deal and keeps them right where they are.

 

wow...thats about all i can say is wow!! unfortunate that kind of hit was imposed.

 

Highly highly favored, but i know those who interviewed without it recently. There's a new written test now i guess being done at the interview. It's to "get rid of the technical part of the interview, and focus mainly on CRM". 27 questions or so, on 121 regs and wx. All from which would be covered in the written, i would definitely take it.

 

It actually wasn't imposed. It was signed by the union. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what he's saying is that is a high rate of pay. To move to a major/legacy would be a pay cut and would take many years to get back to the same level.

Really, Comair isn't all the doom and gloom that many say it is. Pay is reasonable and just about down the middle of the industry. Sure, there are those who get paid more to do the same thing we do in the same plane, but there are those who make a lot less.

In all reality, life is what you make of it.

 

Actually, I don't think that after 12 years at an airline that $75 and hr is a high rate of pay. Looking at the contract we struck for in 2001, I should be making $88 an hr and looking to make something like $112 after 16 years at the company. Moving to the 70 seater would have made me about $121 if I remember right. That is not a bad pay rate and might have kept me at the company with many others. Now I'm forced to look for another job to get the wages I think are fair.

 

I'm with you spooledup. Its sad to think what the pay was before after the strike and what it is now. As far as the union signing the paycut into agreement... yes, that is technically what happened. However, many forget the pilot group was strong armed into it by a FEDERAL JUDGE in a U.S. Bankruptcy Court when the Judge sided with management...

Not to mention, the arguments Delta/Comair used to win over the judge have now come to the public light as false... just read some of the news on Yahoo Finance about Delta and it's investors. Delta themselves admitted to maintaining profitability during the same exact time period they told Comair we were losing money hand over fist and needed the paycuts desperately. It was either a sad, hard yes to the proposal, or take what management bent us over the table with.

As far as Cessna's comments about it not being all doom and gloom at Comair.. he's right. I love going to work everyday. Comair has some of the best guys/gals I've met in this industry. Of course, living in base and holding a line sure don't hurt either. Sure, its a drag sometimes, with our crappy schedules or some awful hotel accommodations, but what job isn't a drag? ANY job is what you make of it. I choose to think positively and enjoy myself and my time while at work. I'm going to be there anyway, may as well not hate it.

 

[quote=TristarJS30;253787]I'm with you spooledup. Its sad to think what the pay was before after the strike and what it is now. As far as the union signing the paycut into agreement... yes, that is technically what happened. However, many forget the pilot group was strong armed into it by a FEDERAL JUDGE in a U.S. Bankruptcy Court when the Judge sided with management...

Not to mention, the arguments Delta/Comair used to win over the judge have now come to the public light as false... just read some of the news on Yahoo Finance about Delta and it's investors. Delta themselves admitted to maintaining profitability during the same exact time period they told Comair we were losing money hand over fist and needed the paycuts desperately. It was either a sad, hard yes to the proposal, or take what management bent us over the table with.


There used to be a day where chapter 11 was looked upon as a disgrace. Now chapter 11 has become a way not getting out of one's obligations. That judge should be embarassed to ever show up to the bench considering he bought into the big lie hook line and sinker.

But that being said, I'm having a great time and appreciate the folks with whom I work.

Now for a quick question; the message on epic says we didn't make our numbers because of operational difficulties in the NE. So does that mean no profit sharing for us, or just a lot less then what we were supposed to get?

 

Less than we could have. Cancelling flights costs money and doesn't bring in revenue, therefore less profit. You should have already gotten yours. I got mine in the mail a couple days ago.

 

Anyone know what LOL is on the pay stub under deductions? I have 2 deductions, Uniforms and LOL, and I have no idea what LOL is.