Just like there is more than one way to skin a cat, there is more than one way <scheduling can> anally rape a pilot.... :rolleyes:

I have the 530am Bangor departure on Saturday....what's the point of even going to bed?

Should I be worried of our upcoming trip? hahaha!

Perhaps I should have clarified.... there is more than one way scheduling can rape a pilot....

I just got this from Epic's news section. Looks like Freedom's getting some reduced flights out of MCO.

shoot, meant to get some more KY at the store. This is going to pinch a little. :eek: :D

Hey if SBS will take it why not? I wonder if we can do 12 minute turns in DCA with a crew change? SBS says we can! And Customer Service always wonders why we're late. I feel a reduced rest coming on! :eek:

Meh... every time I get reduced rest, I always seem to get one of those blasted side effects... I wonder if this time it'll be headache, lack of sleep or the flu. :rolleyes:

How long does it usually take to get something approved if you picked something up from the SAW? I'm not sure if my request went through or not, I don't have a box at the bottom with request pending. I just got a page which looked like a printout where they approve or deny? Is that right? Also, I know you can request to drop legs, but can you request just to pick up 1 or 2 legs from a four day in the SAW?

If you got that page on EPIC that usually prints out in ops for a trade, then it went through. Whether or not you got it is another story. They usually do two "pulls" every day. One at noon and the other at 5 pm and go through the add/drop/trade requests. All SAW requests are awarded on a first come first serve basis and also have to adhere to contractual and legality rules.

Technically, you can't request partial adds or drops during the SAW, although they have done it in the past. It depends on who the planner is and what mood they are in I guess.

Thanks! Well, If I get the trip, great! If not, I'll have 2 extra days off.:D

This is flying we used to do before CHQ moved into CVG. I see this as getting flying back, instead of taking flying over from CHQ. We used to do everything CHQ does now (FWA, AZO, EVV, SDF, TOL, IND, CHA, AVL) on 40/50 seaters.

I put in a request yesterday to switch two days and I still haven't got denied or approved so who knows what is going on.

Did you check the ADT results page on EPIC? They usually update those every day or so during the SAW. It's under crewmember services. If it was denied, it will give a reason (ie - staffing, contract violation, etc..).

If it were approved, it would be on your line by now.

That would be a real travesty. The end of civilization as we know it.

Yeah I've checked a few times and it's not listed as approved or denied. I figure I'll get the wonderful staffing reason for denied which is a joke. Last month they switched by days in a couple hours. I've tried two different requests this month and nothing has showed up.

Yep... at least keep it open until I get off of reserve. You can always tell when I'm sitting a ready by how many posts I make in a 6 hour time period... :D. If this goes away, I dont know what I would do... maybe call in fatigued or something... :rolleyes:

Or just move over to the Comair Forum (http://comaircrews.myfastforum.org/), which is pretty much dead.



Well, I got one of the trips approaved, the other is sill in the SAW, not sure why I didn't get it. It is the same day, but there are no legality/contract issues. How many legs a day are we allowed to fly?

Should be a fun day of flying:D A few short trips in the 50 for the last time. I'll be feeling like a CHQ Pilot! Ha!

5623 CVG 1330 IND 1417 CRJ 47 33
5624 IND 1450 CVG 1533 CRJ 43 102
4971 CVG 1635 EVV 1628 CRJ 53 27
4972 EVV 1655 CVG 1845 CRJ 50 100
4961 CVG 1945 AVL 2047 CRJ 102 958

Rpt 1230 Rls 2107 L/O AVL 838 415 837 415
Minimum Rest 800 R

4962 AVL 645 CVG 759 CRJ 114 0
Rpt 545 Rls 819 114 234 114

Thanks for the reminder, that just ate up about 30 mins of my ready! Only 35 to go!!

Anybody else notice all of those 2 day CVG trips with overnights in AVP. Flights to IND AZO CHA and AVP overnight. Those all sound like CHQ trips and they were NOT in the bid packet.

This is why I dont think Delta will ever sell us. When someone else cant cover their flying, they call the reserve airline and get us to do it. When they have too much flying they just pull it from the reserve airline.


Anyways... check out 1011 on the 4th. How many legs are we allowed to do in a day. 6 correct???

Jeez... I didn't even know we had anything in the contract about that, but I think you are right, it is 6 legs a day. That's a hellova trip

Date Flight Depart Arrive Eq Blk Grnd Blk Duty Cred
04APR 4951 CVG 935 CHA 1038 CRJ 103 32 ( 1
04APR 4950 CHA 1110 CVG 1224 CRJ 114 111 ( 2
04APR 5623 CVG 1335 IND 1422 CRJ 47 28 ( 3
04APR 5624 IND 1450 CVG 1533 CRJ 43 102 ( 4
04APR 4972 CVG 1635 AZO 1731 CRJ 56 29 ( 5
04APR 4971 AZO 1800 CVG 1858 CRJ 58 52 ( 6
04APR 4961 CVG 1950 AVL 2052 CRJ 102 1343 ( 7
Rpt 835 Rls 2112 L/O AVL 1223 643 1237 643
Minimum Rest 900 S

05APR 4962 AVL 1035 CVG 1149 CRJ 114 0 ( 8
Rpt 935 Rls 1209

Its not that CHQ "can't" cover it, per se. Since DL is parking their 135's, they have no option but to ask us to do it. We have the staffing and the airframes right now to cover it. Max landings per day is 7 contractually. I'm looking for specific sections now.

How many planes of CHQ's is Delta parking, how many of ours did they park

Yeah, I tried to add the CVG-CHA out and back to my other trip I just got approved. I didn't get it. Maybe it didn't go through. I just requested it again. I always thought we were limited to 6 legs a day, but those are some pretty short hops.

I was talking to a CHQ dude a few weeks ago. He wasn't sure how many 37 seaters they are going to park, but he said that there might be a possibility that CVG would close as a base for them, as they mostly fly the ER3 in and out of CVG. Those ER3s are pretty crappy planes anyway, always weight restricted. Wouldn't be surprised if we go back into places such as FWA, TOL, SBN, MSN, etc. in a few months.

Found it. Section 12.F.1 talks about scheduled landing limitations. Max is 8 landings per duty period, extendable to 10 landings per duty period.

This DSL is really not that bad. It's a lot of work, but we used to see schedules like these on a daily basis.

I believe that DL is parking all of CHQ's 135s. Not sure exactly how many that is though. For us, I believe we have lost 30, give or take a few, total airframes to date.

Thanks for finding that RJtrashPilot!


Talk to some of the CVG CHQ guys, they do schedules like that every day. If DL does park all of CHQs 135s, I think there is a good chance they will close CVG as a base. Maybe we will finally start parking the all the 70/90 over at Concourse A.

SBN and MSN. Great overnights, as long as it's not in the dead of winter. MSN has a great downtown area and SBN is a great college town with Notre Dame right down the street. Fiddler's Hearth right next to our old hotel in SBN was a great little Irish pub/restaurant with great food, beer and live Irish music.

They finally denied my request to switch days because of staffing on a tuesday. So I went and looked at the reserve status 50 FOs are available on the day I want off. Do you think they even look sometimes if they can do the request or just deny them and put staffing?

I think you've been here way too long. You need to upgrade:p

I'm working on it. It's kinda tough when we keep losing airframes and block hours. I've got my bid in to upgrade to JFK ASAP. I know I'd be sitting reserve there, but in the end, I feel it would be worth the pay raise and PIC time to commute for it. The most junior captain that just upgraded is only 90 numbers senior to me. It is slowly working its way down!

Ok, so I just checked why they denied my CVG-CHA trip. All it said was "conflict". What the hell is that suppose to mean? How is that different from the trip below, except replace CVG-AZO with EVV.

Date Flight Depart Arrive Eq Blk Grnd Blk Duty Cred
04APR 4951 CVG 935 CHA 1038 CRJ 103 32 ( 1
04APR 4950 CHA 1110 CVG 1224 CRJ 114 111 ( 2
04APR 5623 CVG 1335 IND 1422 CRJ 47 28 ( 3
04APR 5624 IND 1450 CVG 1533 CRJ 43 102 ( 4
04APR 4972 CVG 1635 AZO 1731 CRJ 56 29 ( 5
04APR 4971 AZO 1800 CVG 1858 CRJ 58 52 ( 6
04APR 4961 CVG 1950 AVL 2052 CRJ 102 1343 ( 7
Rpt 835 Rls 2112 L/O AVL 1223 643 1237 643
Minimum Rest 900 S

05APR 4962 AVL 1035 CVG 1149 CRJ 114 0 ( 8
Rpt 935 Rls 1209


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There are some pretty funny comments in the A/D/T.

-reserves cannot pick up during the saw
-you do not have a trip on the 12th (LOL! The Chow what are you thinking?)
-you are already flying on 27th - are you trying to add this to your current trip????

What a small world. It could be because I'm already scheduled to fly that CHA turn.

Nevermind. I'm scheduled to fly it on the 3rd. False alarm.

Yeah, nah, the CHA turn I want is on a different date.

Maybe another stupid question, but at the bottom of my CD it says "GUARANTEE: 73.30" I thought it was suppose to be 75?

I saw one last night, but then my alarm went off and I woke up.
:o

[quote=CRJDriver;344975]-you do not have a trip on the 12th (LOL! The Chow what are you thinking?)
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I was thinking that I could add the stupid trip. I thought it was called Add, Drop/Trade.

Mp
 

They just gave that trip away to your classmate.

Silly schedulers!

You should be able to add the trip, as long as it doesn't violate any contract or legality issues. If you want to add something else, better do it this morning, becuase the SAW will close today!

My god, you guys start posting early, dont you have a plane to fly or something? Oh sorry, I forgot, we only sit ready and wait at Comair. :o