Comair updates?
#6741
JO is running around and squealing like a pig in a mine field....who knows what he'll detonate first.
Link to his loss of broker's license appeal to SEC: http://www.dontflygo.com/JGO_SEC.pdf Compare NASD and SEC findings to official bio which opens with:
Jonathan began his aviation career in 1987 with Air LA, a small commuter airline based in Los Angeles, California, where his responsibilities ranged from finance and planning to baggage handling and aircraft cleaning. Jonathan's first contact with Mesa occurred in the summer of 1988 during the negotiation of Air LA's sublease of a Mesa aircraft and in 1989, Jonathan accepted a job offer from Mesa with the prestigious title of "Assistant to the President". At Mesa Jonathan was eventually responsible for all scheduling, pricing, fleet planning and acquisitions.
Other info on Mesa generally: Don't fly go! Airlines, Mesa Air Group has no Aloha
Link to his loss of broker's license appeal to SEC: http://www.dontflygo.com/JGO_SEC.pdf Compare NASD and SEC findings to official bio which opens with:
Jonathan began his aviation career in 1987 with Air LA, a small commuter airline based in Los Angeles, California, where his responsibilities ranged from finance and planning to baggage handling and aircraft cleaning. Jonathan's first contact with Mesa occurred in the summer of 1988 during the negotiation of Air LA's sublease of a Mesa aircraft and in 1989, Jonathan accepted a job offer from Mesa with the prestigious title of "Assistant to the President". At Mesa Jonathan was eventually responsible for all scheduling, pricing, fleet planning and acquisitions.
Other info on Mesa generally: Don't fly go! Airlines, Mesa Air Group has no Aloha
Last edited by airdog; 08-07-2008 at 08:51 PM.
#6743
#6745
I read that article before, sounds like he is a ticking time bomb
#6747
So is this thread still the "Comair Updates" thread or the "Jerry Orenstein Sucks" thread?
Let's get back the thread back on the tracks, it's been de-railed long enough. I've got more JO stories than I care to recount, since I actually worked for the douche bag. Lets keep the JO stories for the Freedom or Mesa threads mmkay.
Let's get back the thread back on the tracks, it's been de-railed long enough. I've got more JO stories than I care to recount, since I actually worked for the douche bag. Lets keep the JO stories for the Freedom or Mesa threads mmkay.
#6748
Okay kids, here's something to scratch your heads about. I've discussed it with the schedulers, coordinators, and the scheduling manager is currently looking at this. It is something that may come to a great benefit to you sometime.
Apparently, per the FARs (not contractual), any time that you have a duty day of over 15 hours (>15:01) you automatically drop into compensatory rest, no questions asked.
My situation yesterday:
We ended up flying 9:38 in a 15:38 duty day. Today we were scheduled for approx 6:30 block. We released from duty and were told to report in the AM after 9:00 hours reduced rest, which then rerouting/displacements was changed to 11:30 rest. On the way to the airport, scheduling called and said there was a possible problem with FARs and if we had officially reported, which we had not. Our report was then changed which made a 12:00 comp rest, even though this was only day 2 of the trip. Scheduling explained that any time someone has a duty day of more than 15 hours you cannot have reduced rest and are immediately on comp rest.
Has anyone ever heard of this before?
Apparently, per the FARs (not contractual), any time that you have a duty day of over 15 hours (>15:01) you automatically drop into compensatory rest, no questions asked.
My situation yesterday:
We ended up flying 9:38 in a 15:38 duty day. Today we were scheduled for approx 6:30 block. We released from duty and were told to report in the AM after 9:00 hours reduced rest, which then rerouting/displacements was changed to 11:30 rest. On the way to the airport, scheduling called and said there was a possible problem with FARs and if we had officially reported, which we had not. Our report was then changed which made a 12:00 comp rest, even though this was only day 2 of the trip. Scheduling explained that any time someone has a duty day of more than 15 hours you cannot have reduced rest and are immediately on comp rest.
Has anyone ever heard of this before?
#6749
I hope I can explain this clearly. They are correct. If you look back at the end of your 15:38 of duty, you only find 8:22 of rest in the last 24 hours. Therefore, you were previously reduced even though you were off the previous day. (I know, doesn't make much sense) So after you have a reduced rest, you need to have compensatory rest to be legal.
Hope that helps.
jrmyl
Hope that helps.
jrmyl
#6750
I hope I can explain this clearly. They are correct. If you look back at the end of your 15:38 of duty, you only find 8:22 of rest in the last 24 hours. Therefore, you were previously reduced even though you were off the previous day. (I know, doesn't make much sense) So after you have a reduced rest, you need to have compensatory rest to be legal.
Hope that helps.
jrmyl
Hope that helps.
jrmyl
Dr. Lewis, I think I understand what you are saying. But can they retroactively put me on reduced rest the day before? The 24 hour look back put 9:38 all on the first day, or much less than 8 hours straddling the rest period. Here's how the flight breakdown was as of report time this morning.
day 1:
Depart Arrive Block
9:10 11:10 2:00
11:45 14:56 3:11
17:55 22:22 4:27
release at 23:30 Total block 9:38
report at 11:00 then changed to 11:30 (11.5 hours rest changed to 12)
day 2:
12:00 12:39 0:39
I halfway see what you are saying with the whitlow 8 hour rest period, which was always legal. but you are saying that I retroactively was put into 8 hour reduced rest for 7:59 scheduled block, requiring 10 hour comp rest, but then schedule changed to 12 hour comp rest due to 9+ hours of flying?
Make sense?
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