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TristarJS30 12-01-2007 09:17 AM

As long as Delta keeps counting all of our Ground Ops costs into our cost of operations, we will lose to the lowest bidder every time. Comair, who does ground operations at many many Delta/Delta Connection stations, supplies the ground staff and equipment to those stations. So who is cheaper? Comair or a company that just flies the planes.

CHayes1126 12-01-2007 11:02 AM

Hey all, me again. Just was wondering what I can expect on the first day and for that matter the first week of training. I start Monday so ill keep you all updated on the attendance.

Diver Driver 12-01-2007 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by CHayes1126 (Post 272041)
Hey all, me again. Just was wondering what I can expect on the first day and for that matter the first week of training. I start Monday so ill keep you all updated on the attendance.

First day is just HR stuff, they will issue your Comair ID as well. The next few days after that is ground school on the FMS, autopilot and normal operations of the jet to prep you for your launch sims and evaluation which will take place in your second week.

CTPILOT 12-01-2007 01:30 PM

Ok question need insight pretty fast...Eagle or Comair interviewed with both? Thanks have fun with this one looking to be NY based

The Chow 12-01-2007 02:28 PM

Qol
 

Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 272089)
Ok question need insight pretty fast...Eagle or Comair interviewed with both? Thanks have fun with this one looking to be NY based

These questions are just too personal to be answered by web posters. It really depends on your situation. They say Eagle has a long upgrade time but right now Comair is running at 5yrs. Both companies have a lot of transitions in the near future. In all cases your enjoyment from your employment will dpend solely on what you bring to the table.

cessna157 12-01-2007 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by TristarJS30 (Post 272006)
As long as Delta keeps counting all of our Ground Ops costs into our cost of operations, we will lose to the lowest bidder every time. Comair, who does ground operations at many many Delta/Delta Connection stations, supplies the ground staff and equipment to those stations. So who is cheaper? Comair or a company that just flies the planes.

That is probably one of the stupidest things I've read on these forums. The C.S. contracting is VERY profitable for the company. Or else we wouldn't do it. Why is it we do the ground servicing for everything from a B1900 up to an A320? Because they make a ton doing it. Just in CVG alone there's lots of $$$ coming in. We do the ground servicing for Comair, plus 6 other regional carriers, and deice Comair plus 7 other regional carriers. Deicing alone brings in some major $$$. I cannot provide any specific details as they are no longer available to me.

Sorry.....rant over C.S. is probably the most profitable thing in the company

Pantera 12-01-2007 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by CHayes1126 (Post 272041)
Hey all, me again. Just was wondering what I can expect on the first day and for that matter the first week of training. I start Monday so ill keep you all updated on the attendance.

be prepared to drink from the comair firehose!


You will have a lot of fun and you will have a lot to learn. The Comair guys that teach the stuff are great. They are there to get you through the training. They do not want you to fail.

TristarJS30 12-01-2007 06:31 PM

Cessna, maybe my post wasn't clear or you didn't read it right. I didn't say it wasn't profitable. I said it was expensive to run, meaning we have higher costs than anyone else who just operates the flight, therefor we will never win in a lowest-bidder situation for new flying.

cessna157 12-01-2007 11:30 PM

Bidding on flying has no relation to the cost of ground servicing. The cost of ground servicing is well offset by the revenues of ground servicing. That is like saying a nice restaurant like Jeff Ruby's steakhouse will not survive against Texas Roadhouse because their costs are 75% higher, even though they charge 150% more. The company has made it clear, and is correct in doing so, that the revenues made from CS and Maint of other airlines will not subsidize our higher cost of flying. They are opposite sides of the company and 1 is not meant to carry the other. C.S. and Maint revenues do make the company more profitable, which makes us as a company better, and gives us a higher profit sharing payment.

And no.....I'm not a Riddle grad/intern?

The Chow 12-02-2007 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by cessna157 (Post 272280)
Bidding on flying has no relation to the cost of ground servicing. The cost of ground servicing is well offset by the revenues of ground servicing. That is like saying a nice restaurant like Jeff Ruby's steakhouse will not survive against Texas Roadhouse because their costs are 75% higher, even though they charge 150% more. The company has made it clear, and is correct in doing so, that the revenues made from CS and Maint of other airlines will not subsidize our higher cost of flying. They are opposite sides of the company and 1 is not meant to carry the other. C.S. and Maint revenues do make the company more profitable, which makes us as a company better, and gives us a higher profit sharing payment.

And no.....I'm not a Riddle grad/intern?


Does anyone know when the last time there was an RFP/RFI? I'm curious to hear whether we are being beat based on costs or if companies just haven't put out any new flying to bid???


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