What am I missing here?
12-11-2007 | 12:13 PM
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What am I missing here?
Ok...Ok I'm bored and had my calculator near and decided to work through some basic numbers. Lets say you (the company of your choice) added $.25 per seat per hour of flight to offset cost, ie pilot pay increase. If you were on a 737-800 doing a 4 hr trip the cost to the revenue PAX would be $1.00 For your 189 seat aircraft that would be $189@ 80% load factor= $151.2
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
12-11-2007 | 12:18 PM
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Ok...Ok I'm bored and had my calculator near and decided to work through some basic numbers. Lets say you (the company of your choice) added $.25 per seat per hour of flight to offset cost, ie pilot pay increase. If you were on a 737-800 doing a 4 hr trip the cost to the revenue PAX would be $1.00 For your 189 seat aircraft that would be $189@ 80% load factor= $151.2
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
12-11-2007 | 12:18 PM
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Ok...Ok I'm bored and had my calculator near and decided to work through some basic numbers. Lets say you (the company of your choice) added $.25 per seat per hour of flight to offset cost, ie pilot pay increase. If you were on a 737-800 doing a 4 hr trip the cost to the revenue PAX would be $1.00 For your 189 seat aircraft that would be $189@ 80% load factor= $151.2
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
Just throw a tip jar by the main cabin door
12-11-2007 | 12:26 PM
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12-11-2007 | 12:52 PM
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Ok...Ok I'm bored and had my calculator near and decided to work through some basic numbers. Lets say you (the company of your choice) added $.25 per seat per hour of flight to offset cost, ie pilot pay increase. If you were on a 737-800 doing a 4 hr trip the cost to the revenue PAX would be $1.00 For your 189 seat aircraft that would be $189@ 80% load factor= $151.2
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
Same situation but using a 50 seat RJ would be 2 flight hours or $.25 would be $.50 per seat or $25. At 80% load factor, that would work out to be $37.80/hr on the 737 and $20.00/hr on the RJ. That seemingly small increase in ticket price would yield (split evenly) approximately $19/hr and $10/hr increase in pay for the 737 and RJ pilots respectively. I do not even think the paying public would notice a $.25 per flight hour increase in cost nor do I think its unreasonable. This would give the pilot a much deserved raise and would not set back gains made post 9-11. Tell me what you think.
why should everyone be able to eat when you can buy your son an Audi...?
No but seriously, its a great idea, if I ever become FAA Administrator ill be sure to enforce this one among other things.
12-11-2007 | 01:30 PM
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Hey everyone else seems to demand tips these days. Drives me nuts to tip van drivers who probably making more than I do. Drives me even more nuts when I see tip jars at fast food joints. Tips are to encourage the worker to perform above average service and be rewarded accordingly. You shouldn't be tipped just for doing your job (except for wait staff and the like who are only compensated by tips, then the standard 15% unless you do something impressive or tremdounsly stupid).
12-11-2007 | 01:56 PM
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Hey everyone else seems to demand tips these days. Drives me nuts to tip van drivers who probably making more than I do. Drives me even more nuts when I see tip jars at fast food joints. Tips are to encourage the worker to perform above average service and be rewarded accordingly. You shouldn't be tipped just for doing your job (except for wait staff and the like who are only compensated by tips, then the standard 15% unless you do something impressive or tremdounsly stupid).
I only tip workers who do a service specific to me. Waiters, barristas, bartenders, even van drivers control quality and speed of service, and get tipped accordingly. The van driver who is 30 minutes late does not get tipped, nor does the one who waits 30 minutes for the next crew when he could have done a round trip to the hotel in 15 minutes. I don't tip people who just man a cash register.
12-11-2007 | 04:27 PM
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A greaser in a RJ deserves a tip... nobody HAS to make it a comfortable landing... you could just let it hit the 1,000' markers and call it a day.... its work to get that bird to land nice (the CRJ-200). To summarize... a nice landing in an RJ is "impressive" to say the least, so tip accordingly.
12-11-2007 | 04:32 PM
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P.S. Tipping a van driver is nuts. I was talking with one in one of the upstate NY overnights... he is a "maitnence specialist" and actually refused a tip. He said that "not having to unclog a toilet, clean up a mess, or fix something for 20 mins. is gratuity in itself." I thought that was pretty classy... then later he took us back to the airport (stand up overnight) and he said (and I'm paraphrasing to the best of my memory):
"Ah fellas not to bring the tip conversation back but, you're the ones that should be getting a tip---5 hours ago I brought you to the hotel. Since then I've taken a nap and watched a movie..and I'm getting $14.50/hr to do that all night every night! You on the other hand flew in and now you're on your way back out all in the late night/early morning. That sucks!"
"Ah fellas not to bring the tip conversation back but, you're the ones that should be getting a tip---5 hours ago I brought you to the hotel. Since then I've taken a nap and watched a movie..and I'm getting $14.50/hr to do that all night every night! You on the other hand flew in and now you're on your way back out all in the late night/early morning. That sucks!"
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