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Old 01-21-2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
I guess it's all in how you define "an industry leader."

Yes because of having no representation, thus having no real bite, we don't lead the industry in negotiations but you could say that we lead in industry in Kool-Aid drinking. LOL!
Well, I wouldn't have put it that way.

Originally Posted by ghilis101
well this pay proposal is not going to infuriate the skw pilots and cause them to organize. that would just be way too ideal. instead theyll vote it in and continue to defend or justify the crap theyre being fed. and yes they are a leading regional airline, but i didnt say pay-wise.

even if you like where you work, you can still stand up every once in a while for yourselves. theres no shame in that.
I was just saying that I wouldn't say they are an industry leading regional. You can make an argument that they are but I wouldn't make it. And that is my point. Skywest is a good regional but it could've become a regional with top pay and work rules enforced by a contract and federal law and thus be indisputably, with no doubt about it, overwhelmingly, hands down, thee industry leader. That is what is sad about this.

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Old 01-21-2008 | 11:21 AM
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not saying its THE leader, its A leader. and not because of pay or QOL, but because they have a huge amount of flying
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Old 01-21-2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
not saying its THE leader, its A leader. and not because of pay or QOL, but because they have a huge amount of flying
...and quick upgrades!
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Old 01-21-2008 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
...and quick upgrades!
...and gouda flavored cheddar!
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Old 01-21-2008 | 12:03 PM
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.....and a large number of HOT FA's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-21-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
.....and a large number of HOT FA's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, yep, gotta give you that one as well.
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Old 01-21-2008 | 03:39 PM
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And the best United rampers in the system!
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Old 01-21-2008 | 03:40 PM
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Started a new thread with this, but since this seems to be the only thread being read on the subject:

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I voted 'Decline' on the SKYW pay proposal this morning.

First of all, it is a net pay decrease for me, a 2nd year FO. A 0.32% [11 cent] increase in my base rate coupled with a decrease of 1% in BHO (from 6% to 5%)

I want first year FOs to get the 2.50/hr raise. I think it's a necessity to attract talent currently choosing other regional airlines with higher first year pay. I think the company will do this anyway. I don't want to pay for it, though. Management has negotiated a SAPA-certified way to pay for it -- via 2nd year FO pay.

If they want this passed, porking the 2nd year FO is pretty stupid since 2006 hires comprise a rather large hunk of the CRJ pilot group.

That's only my first reason.

I love SkyWest and encourage anyone to get on board, but a 1% COLA????? That's just blatently retarded. That's retarded to me and I haven't been here through the 'DEAL-ME-AN-ACE' and other pay freezes.

Why hasn't anyone considered doubling the OPS/PER awards percentage? That way if the company makes more money, we get more money. A fair way to get our share when times are good, and not screw ourselves when times are lean.
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Old 01-21-2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EngineOut
Started a new thread with this, but since this seems to be the only thread being read on the subject:

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I voted 'Decline' on the SKYW pay proposal this morning.

First of all, it is a net pay decrease for me, a 2nd year FO. A 0.32% [11 cent] increase in my base rate coupled with a decrease of 1% in BHO (from 6% to 5%)

I want first year FOs to get the 2.50/hr raise. I think it's a necessity to attract talent currently choosing other regional airlines with higher first year pay. I think the company will do this anyway. I don't want to pay for it, though. Management has negotiated a SAPA-certified way to pay for it -- via 2nd year FO pay.

If they want this passed, porking the 2nd year FO is pretty stupid since 2006 hires comprise a rather large hunk of the CRJ pilot group.

That's only my first reason.

I love SkyWest and encourage anyone to get on board, but a 1% COLA????? That's just blatently retarded. That's retarded to me and I haven't been here through the 'DEAL-ME-AN-ACE' and other pay freezes.

Why hasn't anyone considered doubling the OPS/PER awards percentage? That way if the company makes more money, we get more money. A fair way to get our share when times are good, and not screw ourselves when times are lean.

All I can say is Ha Ha Ha... rob Peter to pay Paul
..Screw the 2nd year FO to give a raise to the 1st year FO Classic balancing of the Books.. I just love it....
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Old 01-21-2008 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
.....and a large number of HOT FA's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeaaaaaa.............! I commute through Den alot and man can I tell you....... Den and Cos has a ton of them!
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