meritflyer

You keep up the good work. Again, my point in proven that SAPA has no bite to it's bark. Management just rearranged your pay rates for the most part rather than raising them. Weren't you claiming a 30-40% pay raise? Looks like you guys at SAPA, which is a lame duck association, can raise the victory flag.

Go ahead, tell me ALPA wasn't for SKYW or what little they've done at Mesa or TSA. What you fail to understand is ALPA consists of local chapters which in some very obvious cases have been very weak. Imagine if SAPA has some legitimacy and actually had legal grounds to bargain.

I love it how you say "Will I vote for it? Yes.." Dont you understand again, your management is doing nothing more than letting you going through the motions? If they said today "this is your new rate", you have ZERO say in the matter.

Again, SAPA is a lame duck association. SKYW management has to have some sort of union-looking group to make the pilots feel like they hold some sort of collective bargaining power. I have news for anyone that thinks this is the truth. I am glad to see they removed your 700/900 over ride since it's apparent SKYW is on the move towards more of these as opposed to the 200.

Go ahead now and spin it to your favor. You all got ripped off and cant say a damn thing about it to your management.

Tail between legs, head down, keep walking.

BoilerUP

I still gotta say that even though I don't often agree with Tony Williams' thoughts on unionism, I am continually amazed that anybody has the stones to post their REAL NAME with their personal and professional thoughts and opinions on an internet message board.

Kudos to you, sir. I'm not a SKW pilot nor ever was, but I appreciate your information and candor.

Airsupport

yeah that is what a new hire here at pinnacle makes with our 8 year old contract.... of course 2nd year pay is beyond a joke, so i cant say much there.

and tony no offense man but you are just one of the pawns of sapa.. the core of sapa is a bunch of guys that have been there FOREVER... they let a few new guys in because they feel like they can control them easier, hence your yes vote to send this to the pilots. if you would have voted no they still would have done it without you... like someons saying on here goes.. power isn't being able to choose, its giving the options.

ExperimentalAB

Paok, now I mean this is the nicest possible way, because I certainly would not want to rock the boat and not be your special friend anymore LoL... Plus ya'll at Comair have done great things for us at every Regional...

You can't look at just hourly compensation (for the billionth time). I thought I was taking a paycut coming here (previously made $22 at TSA), when in fact I have made nothing short of a killing in comparison. The hourly-rate is only there for the uninformed to balk at. At TSA I would have been lucky to break even $20K for the year. Here I will be very close to, if not over, $30K - with more time off as well.

And some would also rather be here at $19, holding a line from day one, with great work-rules and some rigs, than somewhere else at a few bucks more, making monthly guarantee and not flying...Again, Paok, nothing personal 'cause I'm still your guy !!

Paok

Okay 1/10 people telling me why I should be jealous, I know I Can get 9 more.... thanks experimentalAB

ps I know its not all about hourly wage. Look at mesa's they dont look all that bad, but in reality........

but hey Id be embarrassed by your NEW payscales..... we make that and it was a bankruptcy payCUT

ExperimentalAB

I certainly am a bit embarrassed, but then again, it was also the product of sham bargaining over the period of only a few months. After sleeping on it (and a couple cups of coffee this morning!), I can say it still bothers me, but you've got to see both sides of it.

otter

Your 800 lbs burn per hour pretty much means nothing, sorry.

Seattlecfi

Pretty pathetic. I got nothing on the EMB, and this is just another slap in the face. I voted yes for ALPA and no for the previous jokes the presented. I will vote yes for this one, but only because I am leaving.

JetJock16

OK, so all the SKW pilots on here are in agreement (except Slapjerky) that we're voting NO for this pay proposal (myself included). But how many of us are delusional enough to think this isn't going to pass. I mean, just look at it, if the last one passed which included 0% for Bro pilots, 1% for RJ and a BS BHO (WEAK!!!!!!); what makes you think this one wont. It's 3 times better seeing it's 1.8% for Bro CA's, NOTHING for Bro FO's other than first year (I know, they expect you to transition but some don't), 13% for first year with no BHO and no COLA, 2.5-3% average for RJ and a reduction in BHO all this a BS 1% increase per year for what they CALL COLA (more that Cokaaaaaa…….). It's sad but it will pass by 65+%.

BTW, get a load of the BRO FO raise..............ZERO!!!!!!!

What unity!

Thanks TW (I mean no personal offense); we all knew that SAPA had no bark and no bite but you all just showed us you have no BALLS!!!!!!!!!


LONG LIVE THE KING (Jerry)!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!

ExperimentalAB

JetJock16 - we're all still Jerry's kids though, you know that! LoL