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Old 04-23-2008 | 09:00 PM
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Default Pilots Accused of Sleeping on go! Flight Fired

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The two go! Airlines pilots accused of falling asleep on a short hop from Honolulu to the Big Island last February have been fired.

KGMB9 first uncovered this story after radar tracks showed Flight 1002 overshooting Hilo by 15 miles. Air traffic controllers frantically tried to reach the crew for almost 20 minutes, before the plane eventually turned back to Hilo and landed safely. The pilots were taken off flying duties pending an investigation.

A spokesperson for Mesa Airlines, the parent company of go!, released a statement to KGMB9, "After a thorough internal investigation into the incident on February 13 in which go! Flight 1002 overflew the airport at Hilo, Mesa has terminated the employment of both pilots involved."

KGMB9's Stacy Loe has been investigating the incident, and has other new details about what happened in the cockpit that morning. Look for her exclusive reports Thursday on KGMB9 News at 5, 6, 10pm.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 07:27 AM
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Oh well. Maybe they'll be able to find work with someone like Aloha. Oh wait.....
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Old 04-24-2008 | 07:53 AM
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Didn't see that one coming...
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Old 04-24-2008 | 07:59 AM
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Wait you mean we can't sleep. This job sucks
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Old 04-24-2008 | 08:28 AM
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i wonder whos gonna be the first clown to turn this thread into a 64 post bashing of mesa and how much it sucks and how anyone that works there deserves what they get.... my money is on N2Rotation. come on!!!!
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Old 04-24-2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tzadik
i wonder whos gonna be the first clown to turn this thread into a 64 post bashing of mesa and how much it sucks and how anyone that works there deserves what they get.... my money is on N2Rotation. come on!!!!
We should not bash Mesa but we should be bashing the FAA for dropping the ball on this. Yes it is the FAA's fault. The NTSB has recommended many times to the FAA that a change in rest rules is due. It is on their top list of safety improvements for the airlines.

Per Mesa SOP those two pilots were probably over worked and on the back side of the clock and the only thing they should be faulted with is NOT calling fatigued.

This should be a lesson to everyone that while you might be harassed into not calling fatigued, the company would surely fire you for falling asleep, and I am not just talking about Mesa but any airline. So the sure bet is if you are tired is just call time out because it beats getting fired.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 11:46 AM
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Wow, that really bites for those two. I wish them good luck
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Old 04-24-2008 | 11:48 AM
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I agree 100% with the above post. Rest requirements are a freekin joke! 8 hours is bull$hit.
But yet we all seem to be okay with it and keep going back to work. If enough of us actually grew some balls (myself included) and called in fatigued, maybe the stupid a$$ faa would take that as a hint that there is a problem. In there eyes everything is okay because there have been no accidents and pilots seem to be okay with it.

I cannot tell you how many times I started to doze off in a cockpit because of the schedule and rest we had the night before..........ridiculous
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Old 04-24-2008 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lalo37
I agree 100% with the above post. Rest requirements are a freekin joke! 8 hours is bull$hit.
But yet we all seem to be okay with it and keep going back to work. If enough of us actually grew some balls (myself included) and called in fatigued, maybe the stupid a$$ faa would take that as a hint that there is a problem. In there eyes everything is okay because there have been no accidents and pilots seem to be okay with it.

I cannot tell you how many times I started to doze off in a cockpit because of the schedule and rest we had the night before..........ridiculous
In my book rest does not equal sleep. 8 hours of rest means 4-6 hours sleep. I have really wanted to fall asleep once and I have had several captains fall asleep. Meanwhile behind the door the public is unsuspecting and thinking we are bright eyed and bushy tailed and making 250K a year with 20 days off a month.
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Old 04-24-2008 | 01:45 PM
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Gulfstream!
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