TSA's Power Trip
#12
Doesn't help if you've been fired. I'd venture a guess that pretty much every contract out there has a conduct unbecoming clause in it somewhere.
Hopefully, the career ending light is flashing in your eyes as you consider telling any particular TSA person exactly what you think of them.
When I run into the newbies at screening, if I don't have time, I pull out another photo ID and press on.
If I do have time, maybe a lot of time, as politely as I can, I try to provide a little education while asking for a supervisor. If the supervisor is not help, then I ask for ID numbers and relay the pertinent info to my J/S co-ordinator
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_81765053
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worl.../11/2003063201
http://www.thisistrue.com/airsecurity.html
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-24948085_ITM
Hopefully, the career ending light is flashing in your eyes as you consider telling any particular TSA person exactly what you think of them.
When I run into the newbies at screening, if I don't have time, I pull out another photo ID and press on.
If I do have time, maybe a lot of time, as politely as I can, I try to provide a little education while asking for a supervisor. If the supervisor is not help, then I ask for ID numbers and relay the pertinent info to my J/S co-ordinator
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_81765053
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worl.../11/2003063201
http://www.thisistrue.com/airsecurity.html
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-24948085_ITM
Last edited by kronan; 04-29-2008 at 08:19 AM. Reason: added links about pilots who ran into the wrong screener
#13
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If you are an ALPA member, log on to ALPA.org. Click on the left side link "Legislation and Politics." This takes you to a page that has links to issues, such as CrewPASS and the Family Medical Leave Act.
There is a link under each subject called "Take Action!" This will automaticlly pull up your congressman and senators, and you can send an email direct.
It certainly isn't worth a pi$$ing contest at security check points. You will lose. Plain and simple.
There is a link under each subject called "Take Action!" This will automaticlly pull up your congressman and senators, and you can send an email direct.
It certainly isn't worth a pi$$ing contest at security check points. You will lose. Plain and simple.
#15
If you DO cower to the TSA, you are just letting them gain more "power". I routinely have "quiet debates" with them.
Oh, and I do not think you are going to go to jail for making a stink. If you start knocking out TSA teeth, well, then that is another story. Just make sure you get a good shot in for me!!!!
Oh, and I do not think you are going to go to jail for making a stink. If you start knocking out TSA teeth, well, then that is another story. Just make sure you get a good shot in for me!!!!
#16
If you are an ALPA member, log on to ALPA.org. Click on the left side link "Legislation and Politics." This takes you to a page that has links to issues, such as CrewPASS and the Family Medical Leave Act.
There is a link under each subject called "Take Action!" This will automaticlly pull up your congressman and senators, and you can send an email direct.
It certainly isn't worth a pi$$ing contest at security check points. You will lose. Plain and simple.
There is a link under each subject called "Take Action!" This will automaticlly pull up your congressman and senators, and you can send an email direct.
It certainly isn't worth a pi$$ing contest at security check points. You will lose. Plain and simple.
#17
Now suddenly requesting a supervisor is a "p--sing contest"? I guess it's much easier to just "comply" and get out that second ID even when you know they are wrong? Luckily this country was founded by people who had a lot more balls and were willing to stand up to tyranny.
#18
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Anyone else notice the smaller airports are usually more "thorough" with their searches and security procedures and more unfriendly to crew than the major airports?
I got bag checked in Fresno the other day, which is fine. I was non-revving out of uniform, but had showed my crew ID to the girl who checked my ticket (the same one who checked my bag.) I was carrying a tiny travel umbrella in my bag and that set off their screen.
She goes "we saw an umbrella in your bag on the x-ray and we have to visually see it." So I asked politely, if they knew what it was, why does she have to look at it? Her response was a shrug, unzipped my duffel bag, and then turned it upside down dumping the contents onto the table. Once she saw the umbrella she thanked me and walked away, leaving the mess that was my luggage to clean up.
I got bag checked in Fresno the other day, which is fine. I was non-revving out of uniform, but had showed my crew ID to the girl who checked my ticket (the same one who checked my bag.) I was carrying a tiny travel umbrella in my bag and that set off their screen.
She goes "we saw an umbrella in your bag on the x-ray and we have to visually see it." So I asked politely, if they knew what it was, why does she have to look at it? Her response was a shrug, unzipped my duffel bag, and then turned it upside down dumping the contents onto the table. Once she saw the umbrella she thanked me and walked away, leaving the mess that was my luggage to clean up.
#19
Sorry I tend to get a little emotional about this topic. No offense to you Fedex.. I like your balls.
#20
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Anyone else notice the smaller airports are usually more "thorough" with their searches and security procedures and more unfriendly to crew than the major airports?
I got bag checked in Fresno the other day, which is fine. I was non-revving out of uniform, but had showed my crew ID to the girl who checked my ticket (the same one who checked my bag.) I was carrying a tiny travel umbrella in my bag and that set off their screen.
She goes "we saw an umbrella in your bag on the x-ray and we have to visually see it." So I asked politely, if they knew what it was, why does she have to look at it? Her response was a shrug, unzipped my duffel bag, and then turned it upside down dumping the contents onto the table. Once she saw the umbrella she thanked me and walked away, leaving the mess that was my luggage to clean up.
I got bag checked in Fresno the other day, which is fine. I was non-revving out of uniform, but had showed my crew ID to the girl who checked my ticket (the same one who checked my bag.) I was carrying a tiny travel umbrella in my bag and that set off their screen.
She goes "we saw an umbrella in your bag on the x-ray and we have to visually see it." So I asked politely, if they knew what it was, why does she have to look at it? Her response was a shrug, unzipped my duffel bag, and then turned it upside down dumping the contents onto the table. Once she saw the umbrella she thanked me and walked away, leaving the mess that was my luggage to clean up.
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