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Old 04-29-2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Just remember to smile for the mug shot.
Thanks but the huge stink comes after a calm collection of names and ID numbers a few days later.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 08:07 AM
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Doesn't help if you've been fired. I'd venture a guess that pretty much every contract out there has a conduct unbecoming clause in it somewhere.

Hopefully, the career ending light is flashing in your eyes as you consider telling any particular TSA person exactly what you think of them.

When I run into the newbies at screening, if I don't have time, I pull out another photo ID and press on.
If I do have time, maybe a lot of time, as politely as I can, I try to provide a little education while asking for a supervisor. If the supervisor is not help, then I ask for ID numbers and relay the pertinent info to my J/S co-ordinator

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_81765053
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worl.../11/2003063201
http://www.thisistrue.com/airsecurity.html
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-24948085_ITM

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Old 04-29-2008 | 08:33 AM
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If you are an ALPA member, log on to ALPA.org. Click on the left side link "Legislation and Politics." This takes you to a page that has links to issues, such as CrewPASS and the Family Medical Leave Act.

There is a link under each subject called "Take Action!" This will automaticlly pull up your congressman and senators, and you can send an email direct.

It certainly isn't worth a pi$$ing contest at security check points. You will lose. Plain and simple.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Just remember to smile for the mug shot.
Are we living in Stalinist Russia now?? Yes let's all be good germans and cower before the TSA. Geesh what is happening to us.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 08:51 AM
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If you DO cower to the TSA, you are just letting them gain more "power". I routinely have "quiet debates" with them.

Oh, and I do not think you are going to go to jail for making a stink. If you start knocking out TSA teeth, well, then that is another story. Just make sure you get a good shot in for me!!!!
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Old 04-29-2008 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fedex999999
If you are an ALPA member, log on to ALPA.org. Click on the left side link "Legislation and Politics." This takes you to a page that has links to issues, such as CrewPASS and the Family Medical Leave Act.

There is a link under each subject called "Take Action!" This will automaticlly pull up your congressman and senators, and you can send an email direct.

It certainly isn't worth a pi$$ing contest at security check points. You will lose. Plain and simple.
Now suddenly requesting a supervisor is a "p--sing contest"? I guess it's much easier to just "comply" and get out that second ID even when you know they are wrong? Luckily this country was founded by people who had a lot more balls and were willing to stand up to tyranny.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 09:12 AM
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Now suddenly requesting a supervisor is a "p--sing contest"? I guess it's much easier to just "comply" and get out that second ID even when you know they are wrong? Luckily this country was founded by people who had a lot more balls and were willing to stand up to tyranny.
I personally carry a very low opinion of the TSA, but shooting the messenger isn't going to change anything. As with these organizations, change must come from the top down. Until then, BOHICA.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 09:20 AM
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Anyone else notice the smaller airports are usually more "thorough" with their searches and security procedures and more unfriendly to crew than the major airports?

I got bag checked in Fresno the other day, which is fine. I was non-revving out of uniform, but had showed my crew ID to the girl who checked my ticket (the same one who checked my bag.) I was carrying a tiny travel umbrella in my bag and that set off their screen.

She goes "we saw an umbrella in your bag on the x-ray and we have to visually see it." So I asked politely, if they knew what it was, why does she have to look at it? Her response was a shrug, unzipped my duffel bag, and then turned it upside down dumping the contents onto the table. Once she saw the umbrella she thanked me and walked away, leaving the mess that was my luggage to clean up.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziggy
I personally carry a very low opinion of the TSA, but shooting the messenger isn't going to change anything. As with these organizations, change must come from the top down. Until then, BOHICA.
Sorry I tend to get a little emotional about this topic. No offense to you Fedex.. I like your balls.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TristarJS30
Anyone else notice the smaller airports are usually more "thorough" with their searches and security procedures and more unfriendly to crew than the major airports?

I got bag checked in Fresno the other day, which is fine. I was non-revving out of uniform, but had showed my crew ID to the girl who checked my ticket (the same one who checked my bag.) I was carrying a tiny travel umbrella in my bag and that set off their screen.

She goes "we saw an umbrella in your bag on the x-ray and we have to visually see it." So I asked politely, if they knew what it was, why does she have to look at it? Her response was a shrug, unzipped my duffel bag, and then turned it upside down dumping the contents onto the table. Once she saw the umbrella she thanked me and walked away, leaving the mess that was my luggage to clean up.
Yes, the Detectors at the smaller stations are WAYY to sensitive. I left 1 pen in my pocket and it set it off. Got the good ole 10 min personal screen, it sucked big time!
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