skywest pilots that want skywest to buy expressjet
05-31-2008, 03:13 PM
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We already have the contract if we want it.
Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
With a newly-minted contract with CAL worth $, why would Jerry not go after it??
Because we like you say already have the contract. CAL is the owner of the 145 aircraft that XJT operates and will provide SKYW with airplanes. There will be plenty of 145 drivers to hire or we train if necessary and the contract does not start untill 2009. If we buy XJT and the branded operation and/or the rest of the operation gets worse then it can cost more to keep XJT operating than the profit of buying it. We can diverse and operate CAL flying without XJT and in these times it is better to be careful and not go for too much.
Nothing negative ment against XJT or their pilots.
05-31-2008, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
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What
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Dont you know by now that Skywest can get CAL flying without buying XJT? Talk about not opening newspaper. CAL has already negotiated a contract with Skywest and Skywest has already the E-145 certificate from the FAA. It is not only Skywest that wants diversity. CAL is also looking for other operators for the regional lines as they also want diversity and not having to rely on just a couple of operators. What I know it was CAL that approached SKYW not the other way around. Buying XJT is taking responsability for them in the future and why do that? SKYW can get CAL flying without XJT.
Nothing negative against XJT. I wish them the best.
What
???Dont you know by now that Skywest can get CAL flying without buying XJT? Talk about not opening newspaper. CAL has already negotiated a contract with Skywest and Skywest has already the E-145 certificate from the FAA. It is not only Skywest that wants diversity. CAL is also looking for other operators for the regional lines as they also want diversity and not having to rely on just a couple of operators. What I know it was CAL that approached SKYW not the other way around. Buying XJT is taking responsability for them in the future and why do that? SKYW can get CAL flying without XJT.
Nothing negative against XJT. I wish them the best.
05-31-2008, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
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Because we like you say already have the contract. CAL is the owner of the 145 aircraft that XJT operates and will provide SKYW with airplanes. There will be plenty of 145 drivers to hire or we train if necessary and the contract does not start untill 2009. If we buy XJT and the branded operation and/or the rest of the operation gets worse then it can cost more to keep XJT operating than the profit of buying it. We can diverse and operate CAL flying without XJT and in these times it is better to be careful and not go for too much.
Nothing negative ment against XJT or their pilots.
Because we like you say already have the contract. CAL is the owner of the 145 aircraft that XJT operates and will provide SKYW with airplanes. There will be plenty of 145 drivers to hire or we train if necessary and the contract does not start untill 2009. If we buy XJT and the branded operation and/or the rest of the operation gets worse then it can cost more to keep XJT operating than the profit of buying it. We can diverse and operate CAL flying without XJT and in these times it is better to be careful and not go for too much.
Nothing negative ment against XJT or their pilots.
05-31-2008, 03:19 PM
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I do think Skywest is wise to pursue additional flying w/ Continental...It's like being a fund manager for a mutual fund in that an operator should look to diversify their codeshare flying w/ as many different airlines as possible. In other words, don't put all of your eggs in one basket. It minimizes risk. Right now it does look like Delta (think Mesa lawsuit) and United will be trying to trim domestic capacity substantially to keep costs as low as possible. Last I checked, much of Skywest's flying is contracted out by these two carriers. So they're being pro-active and going after flying w/ Continental. They're mitigating risk, which is what well managed companies do.
05-31-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
Well good luck with that. RAH got the flying from them last year and now it is being pulled and given to you. So go ahead and take it, it's not XJT that is losing it right now, its RAH. Who do you think is playing who here?
The game has been going on for ever and the Big airlines has always done what they are doing with the regionals. The question was why SKYW should buy XJT and someone said for the CAL flying. I said SKYW can get the CAL flying without buying XJT and taking long term risk. Just that. If XJT is not loosing the flying CAL is giving to SKYW then even better. I am glad for XJT.
05-31-2008, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
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Because we like you say already have the contract. CAL is the owner of the 145 aircraft that XJT operates and will provide SKYW with airplanes. There will be plenty of 145 drivers to hire or we train if necessary and the contract does not start untill 2009. If we buy XJT and the branded operation and/or the rest of the operation gets worse then it can cost more to keep XJT operating than the profit of buying it. We can diverse and operate CAL flying without XJT and in these times it is better to be careful and not go for too much.
Nothing negative ment against XJT or their pilots.
Because we like you say already have the contract. CAL is the owner of the 145 aircraft that XJT operates and will provide SKYW with airplanes. There will be plenty of 145 drivers to hire or we train if necessary and the contract does not start untill 2009. If we buy XJT and the branded operation and/or the rest of the operation gets worse then it can cost more to keep XJT operating than the profit of buying it. We can diverse and operate CAL flying without XJT and in these times it is better to be careful and not go for too much.
Nothing negative ment against XJT or their pilots.
05-31-2008, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bond
You are clearly not familiar with our CPA with CAL. We get first rights on the aircraft released from service by CAL, what makes you think we would just hand them over. We kept all 69 last time. I think you're getting ahead of yourself here, the CPA that CAL established with skw was heavily relying on buying out XJT...which is no longer an option on the table if you've been reading....so again where are the frames coming from?
05-31-2008, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
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The game has been going on for ever and the Big airlines has always done what they are doing with the regionals. The question was why SKYW should buy XJT and someone said for the CAL flying. I said SKYW can get the CAL flying without buying XJT and taking long term risk. Just that. If XJT is not loosing the flying CAL is giving to SKYW then even better. I am glad for XJT.
The game has been going on for ever and the Big airlines has always done what they are doing with the regionals. The question was why SKYW should buy XJT and someone said for the CAL flying. I said SKYW can get the CAL flying without buying XJT and taking long term risk. Just that. If XJT is not loosing the flying CAL is giving to SKYW then even better. I am glad for XJT.
Originally Posted by HercDriver130
RAH hasnt lost anything we havent known about since the beginning. the CRJs have been on this schedule since they were leased. End of story. The ERJ flying is thru 2012 at the earliest.
Last edited by tpersuit; 05-31-2008 at 03:32 PM.
05-31-2008, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
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What???
Dont you know by now that Skywest can get CAL flying without buying XJT? Talk about not opening newspaper. CAL has already negotiated a contract with Skywest and Skywest has already the E-145 certificate from the FAA. It is not only Skywest that wants diversity. CAL is also looking for other operators for the regional lines as they also want diversity and not having to rely on just a couple of operators. What I know it was CAL that approached SKYW not the other way around. Buying XJT is taking responsability for them in the future and why do that? SKYW can get CAL flying without XJT.
Nothing negative against XJT. I wish them the best.
What
???Dont you know by now that Skywest can get CAL flying without buying XJT? Talk about not opening newspaper. CAL has already negotiated a contract with Skywest and Skywest has already the E-145 certificate from the FAA. It is not only Skywest that wants diversity. CAL is also looking for other operators for the regional lines as they also want diversity and not having to rely on just a couple of operators. What I know it was CAL that approached SKYW not the other way around. Buying XJT is taking responsability for them in the future and why do that? SKYW can get CAL flying without XJT.
Nothing negative against XJT. I wish them the best.
The deal that CAL negotiated with SKY was CONTINGENT on the buyout of XJT. This is DIRECTLY from the people at CAL. That contract that has "already" been negotiated referenced it in the original, no?
Like I said, if there has been a new release or letter, please post it.
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