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Old 06-25-2012, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by piper338 View Post
but it's an awesome time to get in here, I mean the real possibility of the pilot group going on strike while you're still on probation.. Who wouldn't want to be in that situation?
Get fired or be a scab. Awesome! Hold out for something better folks.....
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:59 AM
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You are protected from that while on probation.
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:56 AM
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Welcome to the suck
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:46 AM
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You are protected from that while on probation.
Under what document?
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:39 AM
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It's my understanding that they would not have any protection, but I could easily be wrong on that (I've just never seen anything that says or implies otherwise).

I would hope that the union would have the decency to tell the probationary F/Os to go ahead and show up for work during a strike, since ALPA can't protect them and they wouldn't have anyone to fly with anyway. If ALPA directly instructs them to cross the line under those circumstances, I don't think there'd be any room to label them as "scabs."
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:01 PM
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Yes, they'd 100% be scabs.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingshawn View Post
it's my understanding that they would not have any protection, but i could easily be wrong on that (i've just never seen anything that says or implies otherwise).

I would hope that the union would have the decency to tell the probationary f/os to go ahead and show up for work during a strike, since alpa can't protect them and they wouldn't have anyone to fly with anyway. If alpa directly instructs them to cross the line under those circumstances, i don't think there'd be any room to label them as "scabs."
no no no no no!!!
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingShawn View Post
It's my understanding that they would not have any protection, but I could easily be wrong on that (I've just never seen anything that says or implies otherwise).

I would hope that the union would have the decency to tell the probationary F/Os to go ahead and show up for work during a strike, since ALPA can't protect them and they wouldn't have anyone to fly with anyway. If ALPA directly instructs them to cross the line under those circumstances, I don't think there'd be any room to label them as "scabs."
Yes, they would most definitely be labeled as scabs. As they should Scabbing is pretty cut and dry; cross a picket line/fly struck work, you're a scab.

I do not have any citable sources now (and don't have time to dig any up now), but I'm pretty sure that most return-to-work agreements include negotiated agreements to re-instate striking probationaries. I'm pretty sure the 500 UAL 'ers from 1985 were brought back. I think there was something about this in those ALPA "Flying the Line" books if you need some good bathroom reading material.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:50 PM
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Not fringe probationary first officers will most likely be part of the return to work clause. ask your rep. burkhart
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Old 06-25-2012, 04:00 PM
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Suppose to read new hire probationary pi noose their lots will mist likely be part of the return to work clause and will not lose their jobs. please call your reps with any questions.
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