BE19Pilot

There is very little likelihood that a real will be ( or should be ) brokered this soon in the negotiating process...And, SKW and TSA still have RFPs to submit. I am not anticipating much "news" anytime soon. In the meantime, "Stay calm, and keep doing what you're doing" :-)

minimwage4

Highly doubt pdt pilots would turn down jet flying.

Magpuller

I wouldn't bet on that..PDT pilots are scrappy!

Survivor

More baloney.
I remember back in 2001 or so, when management came to us for Large Turboprop rates. And we "negotiated" them. It was ridiculous because regardless of whatever rate we gave, you can bet your last crew meal voucher that if management dangled a Q400 in our faces and said we could save the company if we fly it for current 300 rates, all the special rates would go out the window. The senior majority would drop their pants and wh-re themselves, just to save what little is left in their careers.
What the large turboprop rates did (along with creating false hope and thereby stemming the tide of exodus), was make managment look good because they managed to sell us something that didn't exist. Snake oil. And pilot retention had a positive effect on training costs, which kept our overhead down, and left more money on the table for the main line. Every dollar helps within US Airways group.
We helped the company with their false hope campaign to the detriment of our pilot group. People who might have gone, stayed. We looked like a bunch of saps. Dupes.
And now, 12 years later, we're engaging in the same old crap.
What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
Welcome to the Piedmont MEC Asylum. BF, Chairman.

Buzzlightyear

I'm hearing your MEC is entertaining PSA rates minus 10-20% on the top rate for the 175's? Comment?

PDTpilotXX

LOL it's already on our FB pages and called BS by the people That would know.

Buzzlightyear

^^^^Good to hear, I'm not on Facebook so I hadn't heard the rumor was shot down. I say ask for an industry leading pay scale if AAG wants to refleet you.

FixTheMess

I'd say industry leading is a little unrealistic. If Piedmont doesn't refleet, they're done (in the not so distant future) No other regional that has been approached by AAG is in the same position that Piedmont is. If AAG has to pay industry leading wages, they are not going to do it at Piedmont. It wouldn't make sense to when they can pay a jet operator (Envoy) to operate the new equipment.

If anyone wants Piedmont to demand "industry leading wages," they better be ready to absorb every Piedmont pilot at DOH (and furlough their own if need be) when the time comes.

All that being said, I believe if management is serious about the possibility of refleeting, Piedmont pilots won't give away their dignity, and sell their souls just to survive.

buddies8

would be cheaper from a business sense to merge pdt with psa. they get checked out on jets without having to jump through faa hoops for jet certification for training and proving runs. It would be probably better for the pdt pilots long run to merge with psa. they also get to negotiate a new contract this way.

Buzzlightyear

In negotiations you always shoot for the moon in the initial round.