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Old 08-16-2015 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
How can they stop envoys flow whenever they want, yet PDT's is so "iron clad?" Yet again, you're making shlt up.
Actually it's called Contract Language. The only way to stop the flow at PDT is to not have a new hire class at American is what I understand.

Envoy gets 175's and Piedmont gets a 'iron clad' flow.
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Old 08-16-2015 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
How can they stop envoys flow whenever they want, yet PDT's is so "iron clad?" Yet again, you're making shlt up.
You haven't even read our agreement have you? Like Billy said, it's in the language. Locked in. Done. Sorry man, not making anything up just stating facts... Just because they make your narrative look stupid, which it is, isn't my problem. I do appreciate the entertainment though. You're ****ed you're wrong and that literally made me laugh to read.

Here's my statement again for you and others that are too lazy to read our deal. This is completely accurate.

We have the most air tight iron clad flow agreement. Ever. Seriously. They can stop PSA's and Envoys for various reasons. Can't stop ours. Ever. No matter what. Flowing 5 this month, 5 the next and 5 the next.

401k...
Defined contribution of 1%
Then match up to 50% of 12%.

Also half of our list still has a real pension on top of that.

Rigs?
4.0hr min day.


Also, we all knew it was about 50 seat jets and that's what our negotiating committee told us. Our dash 300 ca rate tops at 97/hr.

Also the best vacation in the industry.

Hilarious so many people think we have a crap contract and how many people have no idea what an LOA is. Anywho...


Byeeeeee
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
How can they stop envoys flow whenever they want, yet PDT's is so "iron clad?" Yet again, you're making shlt up.

Flowin' is what we got, I said remember that
Flowin' is what we got, I remember that
Flowin' is what we got, I said remember that
Flowin' is what we got.....
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
You haven't even read our agreement have you? Like Billy said, it's in the language. Locked in. Done. Sorry man, not making anything up just stating facts... Just because they make your narrative look stupid, which it is, isn't my problem. I do appreciate the entertainment though. You're ****ed you're wrong and that literally made me laugh to read.

Here's my statement again for you and others that are too lazy to read our deal. This is completely accurate.

We have the most air tight iron clad flow agreement. Ever. Seriously. They can stop PSA's and Envoys for various reasons. Can't stop ours. Ever. No matter what. Flowing 5 this month, 5 the next and 5 the next.

401k...
Defined contribution of 1%
Then match up to 50% of 12%.

Also half of our list still has a real pension on top of that.

Rigs?
4.0hr min day.


Also, we all knew it was about 50 seat jets and that's what our negotiating committee told us. Our dash 300 ca rate tops at 97/hr.

Also the best vacation in the industry.

Hilarious so many people think we have a crap contract and how many people have no idea what an LOA is. Anywho...


Byeeeeee
Well, explain to us how it's "iron clad?

Byeeeeee
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:15 PM
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And here we are, arguing amongst the wholly-owneds once again. If it isn't PSA they are upset about its PDT. Blaming everyone but the real culprits for their "problems".
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
And here we are, arguing amongst the wholly-owneds once again. If it isn't PSA they are upset about its PDT. Blaming everyone but the real culprits for their "problems".
Oh it's Envoy people??? We'll damn!! Why are they worried about little old Piedmont. We aren't even a real airline yet.
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
Well, explain to us how it's "iron clad?

Byeeeeee
Read the language! They cannot reduce our flows for any reason be it staffing at mainline, staffing at PDT, any reason. As long as AA, US, or both are hiring, it is spelled out to the letter PDT pilots are entitled to X number of spots per month they are hiring. Signed by their corporate lawyer, Isom, Kenji, and last and least Farrow. Our bases are covered. It's as iron clad as it can get. Even if PDT ALPA uses their right and pulls out of LOA 19 completely, we keep the flow and the signatures.

Byeeeeee
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
Read the language! They cannot reduce our flows for any reason be it staffing at mainline, staffing at PDT, any reason. As long as AA, US, or both are hiring, it is spelled out to the letter PDT pilots are entitled to X number of spots per month they are hiring. Signed by their corporate lawyer, Isom, Kenji, and last and least Farrow. Our bases are covered. It's as iron clad as it can get. Even if PDT ALPA uses their right and pulls out of LOA 19 completely, we keep the flow and the signatures.

Byeeeeee
So again how is it iron clad?????????? Balahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhaha
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
So again how is it iron clad?????????? Balahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhaha
It's titanium and it is very favorable to a small airline such as ours. We could double in size and it will still be favorable. We get the same percentage of total pilots on the list flowing as an airline 4-5 times the size. Boom goes the dynamite!
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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:51 PM
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So what happens to your "iron clad" so called contract when AA decides to consolidate Piedmont, PSA, and Envoy into one large wholly owned regional? Oooooo boom dynamite! Now your no longer Piedmont and are now subjected to, lets say PSA flow agreement or does your amazing "iron clad" contract have protection for when this happens? My best friend is a Piedmont Captain so I've read your "iron clad" contract..
- what are your trip and duty rigs not min pay?
- how's your vacation "best" in the industry?
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