Your 100 percent right on this ..The
problem with flow is keeping a current
staffing level without flowing the
company out of existence ..I can see
any regional with a flow program using
this as an excuse to keep pilots on
the property.

 

It's 50% of new hire positions in each class. They're still doing recalls.

We sent 20 last month. This month we sent 18. The rest this month were recalls. So, for August:
100% of new hire positions went to ENY
There were no street hires
PSA sent none
PDT sent none

June they screwed up. They were supposed to send at least 5. They acknowledge the error. While it's being resolved I'll withhold comment.

 

You're right and I think what Parker is banking on is getting pilots from other contract carriers to leave and come to one of the WO'ed. PDT is beefing up to eventually take over AWAC flying. We've had some AWAC pilots interview lately along with Republic pilots. Damn nice carrots of a less then 18 month upgrade and a Job at American. But then again once that pool is dry you might see some kind of an arrangement. It could be Pilots at the WO'ed are locked in but given a seniority number thus allowing street pilots to be hired but not allowing them to be senior then the WO'ed pilots in the pool. So basically if your flow number came up and they said we need to hold you for 4 months then your seniority number would be based on when you were suppose to go to class. At that point you'd be a Captain and would be fine with that as long as you had started making seniority at American. I think Compass/Delta had that arrangement during there flow.
Right now it's working and the main thing Parker wanted was shaving the top off of the WO'ed Pilots. If he's going to pay those pilots a fair amount of money he wants them at American not at any of his Eagle Airlines. He actually stated he doesn't want anyone at Eagle more then 6 years.

For now it's playing out well for PDT but there will be for sure some changes as the pilot pool keeps drying up.

 

Not trying to start a war about whose flow is better, because honestly PDT's and Envoy's are very similar, but what was the reasoning given for PDT and PSA sending none in August?

 

From what I understand PSA and PDT still weren't sending to the legacy AA side for August. That is set to change where we could now go to either side.

 

Any idea when all the recalls will be done?

 

Not soon enough!

 

Thanks. Guess it's not so "iron-clad" Sorry, couldn't help myself.

 

You would think but then they are sending 5 per month for the next 3 months to make up for it. Here we come

 

Is Piedmont planning to get more than the 20 announced erj's 145?, they show 20 as minimum, perhaps more are coming?....