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Old 08-05-2015 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
And this benefits you how?. Do you really expect them to fix that with an old *****y 145 50 seat jet and just let some e175 sit idle or go over to china? No lol they will just renegotiate With RAH or another carrier flying new mettle.

you guys are trading one *****y old plane for another. Get over your self.

I used to fly the dash 8. Fun airplane to fly but its time to burry the thing along with the 145 and the basta*d red headed mike fifley
john fifely I meant. How dare I almost forget that bastar*s name.
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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
So you're going to answer the question like a politician because you know you're wrong? Got it. Well, for a snapshot of today's fleet you are correct.

How about this, I'll dumb it down for you. How do you expect PDT to start up a 175 program for AAG when the next 40+90 options are already spoken for?

The reason I'm giving you such a hard time is because you talk out your @$$ and stick up for the crappy choices you made which have in turn degraded the profession. Sorry if it sounds like "buzzword bingo" to you.
Did I say anything about us starting a 175 program? So who's talking out who's ass again? Crappy choices? Piedmont pilots made the only choice they had and like most keyboard ceo's and wannabe ALPA leaders you have truly no idea of what you're talking about
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Old 08-06-2015 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
Ok I see a few problems with this first env just announced its size will be cut in half by dec 2015. Yes for a little while they are picking up slack from rah but Mesa and sky west is already biding on that like flies on **** . And u know they are going to win that bid. A 900 can get in to aspen just fine just can't take a full load plus they still have the 757 of aa going in their. So you are not restricted by much. Envoy stood up to main line and I am proud that they did don't get me wrong but it looks to me and most others that they are dismantling them one plane at a time. And Pdt well they are just sitting on the side lines with an unsure future and dosent fit any model that well. Not their fault but it is what it is.
There was no announcement that they would cut envoy at half. AAG certainly gave away airplanes until we cave. All the planes leaving are prior the dec 2014 TA vote. Now, they just annouced a couple of days ago that we will keep flying in Mia and expect more to come. They are returning planes from the desert to the line. Attrition has slowed down significantly, more than what AAG expected.

The reality with Aspen is that it needs to be certified by the FAA. It takes about 2 years to be approved, so it's not as easy as you think.
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Old 08-06-2015 | 06:36 AM
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Just got the offer yesterday. Considering switching from Mesa. Pay is 15% better basically across the board and benefits are much better. Consolidation does worry me but so does 1% profit margains and bidding wars at mesa.

Think im gonna make the jump though. Only 2 of us got the offer out of 7. Kind of suprising. Had navy/ ex united guys, cargoguys, flight instructors. I was one of 2 that had prior 121.

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Old 08-06-2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by payingdues
Just got the offer yesterday. Considering switching from Mesa. Pay is 15% better basically across the board and benefits are much better. Consolidation does worry me but so does 1% profit margains and bidding wars at mesa.

Think im gonna make the jump though. Only 2 of us got the offer out of 7. Kind of suprising. Had navy/ ex united guys, cargoguys, flight instructors. I was one of 2 that had prior 121.
You're making a god decision man. See you out here
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Old 08-06-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
Did I say anything about us starting a 175 program? So who's talking out who's ass again? Crappy choices? Piedmont pilots made the only choice they had and like most keyboard ceo's and wannabe ALPA leaders you have truly no idea of what you're talking about
You're too dumb for words and I'm on vacation so I'll keep this brief. Yes you did say something about PDT starting a 175 program down the road, that was the whole point of me calling you out.

I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
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Old 08-06-2015 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
You're too dumb for words and I'm on vacation so I'll keep this brief. Yes you did say something about PDT starting a 175 program down the road, that was the whole point of me calling you out.

I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."

If youre so mad why not just quit? If you put this much effort into getting out of the regionals maybe you could. We can argue over planes, payrates, etc all day long at the regionals... Bottom line is it doesnt matter bro. Management and the powers that be will win. Our partnership with ALPA and the RLA have sealed our fate. Until that is over.... Well im sorry but were stuck with it. People can complain and bash me for that post but its the reality. Youre not holding the line for Sh** by voting no on anything unless it was re unionizing apart from the majors. That is all.
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Old 08-07-2015 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
You're too dumb for words and I'm on vacation so I'll keep this brief. Yes you did say something about PDT starting a 175 program down the road, that was the whole point of me calling you out.

I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
I don't care and you are wrong... many more than 5 years. Just cracks me up I'm under your skin WHILE YOU'RE ON VACATION. Hilarious. Get a life bro.
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Old 08-07-2015 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
Ok I see a few problems with this first env just announced its size will be cut in half by dec 2015. Yes for a little while they are picking up slack from rah but Mesa and sky west is already biding on that like flies on **** . And u know they are going to win that bid. A 900 can get in to aspen just fine just can't take a full load plus they still have the 757 of aa going in their. So you are not restricted by much. Envoy stood up to main line and I am proud that they did don't get me wrong but it looks to me and most others that they are dismantling them one plane at a time. And Pdt well they are just sitting on the side lines with an unsure future and dosent fit any model that well. Not their fault but it is what it is.
Please tell us more about the 757s going into Aspen.
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Old 08-07-2015 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
I'm on vacation so I'll keep this brief.
Must be a sad boring vacation.
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