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08-06-2015, 05:40 AM
#6491
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: DHC-8 100/300
Posts: 843
Originally Posted by sublime259
So you're going to answer the question like a politician because you know you're wrong? Got it. Well, for a snapshot of today's fleet you are correct.
How about this, I'll dumb it down for you. How do you expect PDT to start up a 175 program for AAG when the next 40+90 options are already spoken for?
The reason I'm giving you such a hard time is because you talk out your @$$ and stick up for the crappy choices you made which have in turn degraded the profession. Sorry if it sounds like "buzzword bingo" to you.
How about this, I'll dumb it down for you. How do you expect PDT to start up a 175 program for AAG when the next 40+90 options are already spoken for?
The reason I'm giving you such a hard time is because you talk out your @$$ and stick up for the crappy choices you made which have in turn degraded the profession. Sorry if it sounds like "buzzword bingo" to you.
08-06-2015, 06:14 AM
#6492
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,205
Originally Posted by milehighskyline
Ok I see a few problems with this first env just announced its size will be cut in half by dec 2015. Yes for a little while they are picking up slack from rah but Mesa and sky west is already biding on that like flies on **** . And u know they are going to win that bid. A 900 can get in to aspen just fine just can't take a full load plus they still have the 757 of aa going in their. So you are not restricted by much. Envoy stood up to main line and I am proud that they did don't get me wrong but it looks to me and most others that they are dismantling them one plane at a time. And Pdt well they are just sitting on the side lines with an unsure future and dosent fit any model that well. Not their fault but it is what it is.
The reality with Aspen is that it needs to be certified by the FAA. It takes about 2 years to be approved, so it's not as easy as you think.
08-06-2015, 06:36 AM
#6493
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 354
Just got the offer yesterday. Considering switching from Mesa. Pay is 15% better basically across the board and benefits are much better. Consolidation does worry me but so does 1% profit margains and bidding wars at mesa.
Think im gonna make the jump though. Only 2 of us got the offer out of 7. Kind of suprising. Had navy/ ex united guys, cargoguys, flight instructors. I was one of 2 that had prior 121.
Think im gonna make the jump though. Only 2 of us got the offer out of 7. Kind of suprising. Had navy/ ex united guys, cargoguys, flight instructors. I was one of 2 that had prior 121.
Last edited by payingdues; 08-06-2015 at 06:47 AM.
08-06-2015, 10:56 AM
#6494
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: DHC-8 100/300
Posts: 843
Originally Posted by payingdues
Just got the offer yesterday. Considering switching from Mesa. Pay is 15% better basically across the board and benefits are much better. Consolidation does worry me but so does 1% profit margains and bidding wars at mesa.
Think im gonna make the jump though. Only 2 of us got the offer out of 7. Kind of suprising. Had navy/ ex united guys, cargoguys, flight instructors. I was one of 2 that had prior 121.
Think im gonna make the jump though. Only 2 of us got the offer out of 7. Kind of suprising. Had navy/ ex united guys, cargoguys, flight instructors. I was one of 2 that had prior 121.
08-06-2015, 01:53 PM
#6495
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 439
Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
Did I say anything about us starting a 175 program? So who's talking out who's ass again? Crappy choices? Piedmont pilots made the only choice they had and like most keyboard ceo's and wannabe ALPA leaders you have truly no idea of what you're talking about
I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
08-06-2015, 02:17 PM
#6496
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 354
Originally Posted by sublime259
You're too dumb for words and I'm on vacation so I'll keep this brief. Yes you did say something about PDT starting a 175 program down the road, that was the whole point of me calling you out.
I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
If youre so mad why not just quit? If you put this much effort into getting out of the regionals maybe you could. We can argue over planes, payrates, etc all day long at the regionals... Bottom line is it doesnt matter bro. Management and the powers that be will win. Our partnership with ALPA and the RLA have sealed our fate. Until that is over.... Well im sorry but were stuck with it. People can complain and bash me for that post but its the reality. Youre not holding the line for Sh** by voting no on anything unless it was re unionizing apart from the majors. That is all.
08-07-2015, 12:54 AM
#6497
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: DHC-8 100/300
Posts: 843
Originally Posted by sublime259
You're too dumb for words and I'm on vacation so I'll keep this brief. Yes you did say something about PDT starting a 175 program down the road, that was the whole point of me calling you out.
I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
I'm going to guess you've been in the industry for well less than 5 years, yet somehow you seem to know everything. And I'm the one who has no idea what I'm talking about? Right. Enjoy being hated on by everyone, although I know you "don't care."
08-07-2015, 04:03 AM
#6498
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 490
Originally Posted by milehighskyline
Ok I see a few problems with this first env just announced its size will be cut in half by dec 2015. Yes for a little while they are picking up slack from rah but Mesa and sky west is already biding on that like flies on **** . And u know they are going to win that bid. A 900 can get in to aspen just fine just can't take a full load plus they still have the 757 of aa going in their. So you are not restricted by much. Envoy stood up to main line and I am proud that they did don't get me wrong but it looks to me and most others that they are dismantling them one plane at a time. And Pdt well they are just sitting on the side lines with an unsure future and dosent fit any model that well. Not their fault but it is what it is.
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