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Old 03-03-2016, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator493 View Post
Just curious... How much are first year FOs really making? Is everyone stuck at guarantee or are there pretty decent opportunities to get well above guarantee?


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When I was on reserve.. I always.. always went well over.. usually about 100 hours to over 120.. granted I always called skd and was volunteering.. you work with them they work with you...

on my line I get about 90 to 95 hours a month credit...

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Old 03-03-2016, 09:52 AM
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The Junior man gods are angry this month... It's been a bloodbath and since they can only JRM 3X year... They are gonna be out of people to hose by early spring.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:02 AM
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The Junior man gods are angry this month... It's been a bloodbath and since they can only JRM 3X year... They are gonna be out of people to hose by early spring.
Hopefully our fatigue calls coincide with this.. I've been jr manned 3 times already.. I should have legitimately been fatigued for two of them.. I was exhausted..
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX View Post
The Junior man gods are angry this month... It's been a bloodbath and since they can only JRM 3X year... They are gonna be out of people to hose by early spring.
Too funny. Soon the going rate for a Jrm will be the new new hire bonus.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:31 AM
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Too funny. Soon the going rate for a Jrm will be the new new hire bonus.
When flights begin to cx due to lack of crews things may start to change. Still surprised heads haven't rolled over the inability to get new hires through training in anything remotely like a timely fashion. That hurts our ability to hire and destroys the staffing at the airline. It's not like they didn't have the time to plan the training for the massive hiring associated with the growth and flow. Always amazed never surprised~quote of the airline
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:49 AM
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Most other companies are implementing actual pay raises with or without incentive bonuses. How long can AAG hold out before they admit that they need to do the same for the WOs?
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Old 03-03-2016, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX View Post
When flights begin to cx due to lack of crews things may start to change. Still surprised heads haven't rolled over the inability to get new hires through training in anything remotely like a timely fashion. That hurts our ability to hire and destroys the staffing at the airline. It's not like they didn't have the time to plan the training for the massive hiring associated with the growth and flow. Always amazed never surprised~quote of the airline
You know.. You talk to jp and ws and they are like deer in the headlights.. unfortunately pilots don't make very good administrators.. they really need some horsepower that that had project planning experience in that department.. time to get a someone with with a project management background and aviation experienced in to help out.. just my 0.75 cents..

The bigger concern should be the inability to get upgrades through as well.. I was matched with an upgrade and at no time did I feel they were training them to be a captain.. rather it's just an evaluation every SIM...
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Old 03-03-2016, 12:13 PM
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You know.. You talk to jp and ws and they are like deer in the headlights.. unfortunately pilots don't make very good administrators.. they really need some horsepower that that had project planning experience in that department.. time to get a someone with with a project management background and aviation experienced in to help out.. just my 0.75 cents..

The bigger concern should be the inability to get upgrades through as well.. I was matched with an upgrade and at no time did I feel they were training them to be a captain.. rather it's just an evaluation every SIM...
The training culture has to change here. Personally, the sim isn't overly complicated and the training, at least on the FO side, isn't too rigorous. That being said, the culture is wayyyy too evaluation intense instead of learning intense. This, along with inconsistent training styles amongst instructors is a more fundamental problem that needs addressed to streamline the training process.
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Old 03-03-2016, 04:28 PM
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Heard a deal got worked today and piedmont fo's got a bonus? Has anyone heard details????
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Old 03-03-2016, 04:47 PM
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Heard a deal got worked today and piedmont fo's got a bonus? Has anyone heard details????
Is this something different than the previous 121 time bonus?
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