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Old 05-07-2016 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
They've already announced that pretty much all the classes for most of the year will be Flows/Recalls with a few lucky OTS hires from the pool. Many people in the Pool already received emails stating that they won't probably get a class till close to next winter.

Nothing at a regional level is a certain, but I think its pretty safe to say the flow will continue to go on.
I can agree with you but I still think the recall pilots are still going to throw a wrinkle in this.
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Old 05-07-2016 | 07:19 PM
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I can agree with you but I still think the recall pilots are still going to throw a wrinkle in this.
Lol you really think that AAG hasnt thought about them? Like they just magically appeared? Oh no we forgot the recalls better shut down the flows and our regionals now and cease the only hiring mechanism for 70% of our hiring going forward...sike.but nah youre probably right. Theyll just cancel pdt, envoy, and psa flows cause there is recalls. Since they can totally afford hundreds of regional planes to sit idle. Im giving you a hard time...but seriously the flow isnt going anywhere for a while. Recall or not.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 06:36 AM
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I can agree with you but I still think the recall pilots are still going to throw a wrinkle in this.
AA mainline Capt told me May 6th was the last day recalls could elect to come back.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 07:41 AM
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AA mainline Capt told me May 6th was the last day recalls could elect to come back.
It's the first day they begin calling furloughees. AA will keep calling and filling classes with those pilots until the list is exhausted. It's going to take quite awhile.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
It's the first day they begin calling furloughees. AA will keep calling and filling classes with those pilots until the list is exhausted. It's going to take quite awhile.
They will be filling them however 60% will be flows and the rest recalls. Like I said the only people that will be hating this are those in the Pool. Honestly if I were in the pool right now I might apply and try Delta or United. They could lose 400 numbers waiting to get their class date or even more.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 08:40 AM
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It's not going to do much to the PDT flow. That's the beauty of having a flow like we do at a smaller airline. Even if they stop a month or two and make it up later, it doesn't hurt too much. At Envoy, I can see why you get your panties in a bind. You people need the movement to justify yourselves.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
It's not going to do much to the PDT flow. That's the beauty of having a flow like we do at a smaller airline. Even if they stop a month or two and make it up later, it doesn't hurt too much. At Envoy, I can see why you get your panties in a bind. You people need the movement to justify yourselves.
Nah, people here doesn't have patience. We all knew this was going to happen with the flow and furloghees coming back. Suddenly everybody is "surprised"???? Lol!!!

They already said that envoy flow will be 50% or higher of the PSA/PDT flow in this slowdown.

5-10 a month leaving is better than 0, but people are glass half empty.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
They will be filling them however 60% will be flows and the rest recalls. Like I said the only people that will be hating this are those in the Pool. Honestly if I were in the pool right now I might apply and try Delta or United. They could lose 400 numbers waiting to get their class date or even more.
That's not what we have been told in union blasts and from mgmt at ENY....AA side will be all recalls, and they will continue to hire on the US side, which is where a small number of flows will be placed each month. The number of flows each month has not been determined. Eight of our guys went so far this month.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
It's not going to do much to the PDT flow. That's the beauty of having a flow like we do at a smaller airline. Even if they stop a month or two and make it up later, it doesn't hurt too much. At Envoy, I can see why you get your panties in a bind. You people need the movement to justify yourselves.
Actually as a percentage of their respective pilot groups, the flows are within 5% of each other. So "smaller airline this and that" doesn't matter.

You people? Lol
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Old 05-09-2016 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
Actually as a percentage of their respective pilot groups, the flows are within 5% of each other. So "smaller airline this and that" doesn't matter.

You people? Lol
Sure it does. If you are small and growing the number of the flows increases. You're right it's basically the Same % but if you are in the front or middle part of the growth you will benefit more by having your flow come faster because the flow # has now increased.

Now the main problem with Piedmont is seeing how big can it actually grow.
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