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05-10-2016 | 05:47 PM

#8421

MKUltra

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From: Professional Eugoogoolizer at the Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’t Read Good

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Originally Posted by daOldMan

EXACTLY!!!

I don't want it to happen anywhere. Just realize that anyone that is more than a year from flowing will never see it.

The regionals will be a completely different place in 2 years.

Aye... If the flow doesn't pan out there will be plenty of other opportunities available..

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05-10-2016 | 07:07 PM

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Hasn't a high percentage of your flows actually failed training at American?

nope, we've had I believe 4 guys come back from training, from over a year and a half's worth of flows, so out of 50-60ish people?

05-10-2016 | 07:29 PM

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nope, we've had I believe 4 guys come back from training, from over a year and a half's worth of flows, so out of 50-60ish people?

If a pdt pilot flows back, do we get to flow an additional pilot back up or is it simply a flow spot wasted?

05-10-2016 | 07:55 PM

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If a pdt pilot flows back, do we get to flow an additional pilot back up or is it simply a flow spot wasted?

Essentially wasted. from what I understand you only get one shot. i.e no "re flow"

05-10-2016 | 07:56 PM

#8425

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If a pdt pilot flows back, do we get to flow an additional pilot back up or is it simply a flow spot wasted?

It is considered a spot taken. By and large most of our pilots have been successful in training at American. The flow back is an insurance policy if there is a an unfortunate experience.

05-10-2016 | 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan

Going forward, yes. But right now, not the case

Remind me again how many PDT has hired for the year?

All of the wholly owned's are falling behind on new hire numbers because they are all managed the same way. They don't value their employees. Until that changes, it's hard to predict what will happen. But I don't think they'll grow until AAG stops abusing their regional pilots.

05-10-2016 | 07:59 PM

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It is considered a spot taken. By and large most of our pilots have been successful in training at American. The flow back is an insurance policy if there is a an unfortunate experience.

I think one of the best aspect of our flow agreement is the flow back, get the seniority back and life is back to somewhat normal compared to being on the street looking for another job.

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05-11-2016 | 05:07 AM

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It is good, but terribly demoralizing to have to come back. I give those that come back credit. I'm sure it's not easy.

05-11-2016 | 05:12 AM

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It is good, but terribly demoralizing to have to come back. I give those that come back credit. I'm sure it's not easy.

I totally agreed, no one likes to be viewed as a failure but it totally beats on the street and starting all over again most likely at another regional.

05-11-2016 | 05:46 AM

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I totally agreed, no one likes to be viewed as a failure but it totally beats on the street and starting all over again most likely at another regional.

Flying dials and props for 25 years and then jumping into an E-190 can be daunting for those guys.
I think with the E-145 and a change in piedmonts training environment this will be a big plus for all future flows going into training.
American's training is tough but hard work and good attitude you'll be good to go.