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09-21-2016, 07:09 PM
#9421
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
I'm coming to 121 in Jan when I hit 1500. Narrowed it down to PSA, Piedmont, Republic and Skywest.
Which bases are junior at Piedmont, are they commutable from CLT or RDU?
Or would it be better to live in base? I have family in NC. Would rather not live in philly.
Thanks
Which bases are junior at Piedmont, are they commutable from CLT or RDU?
Or would it be better to live in base? I have family in NC. Would rather not live in philly.
Thanks
09-21-2016, 07:38 PM
#9422
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
I'm coming to 121 in Jan when I hit 1500. Narrowed it down to PSA, Piedmont, Republic and Skywest.
Which bases are junior at Piedmont, are they commutable from CLT or RDU?
Or would it be better to live in base? I have family in NC. Would rather not live in philly.
Thanks
Which bases are junior at Piedmont, are they commutable from CLT or RDU?
Or would it be better to live in base? I have family in NC. Would rather not live in philly.
Thanks
09-21-2016, 09:35 PM
#9423
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Thanks.
Piedmont seems like the place to go considering fast upgrade, top pay, and flow.
Question about the flow....if it's one additional flow number/month for every 125 pilots....then by my limited math skills that's 12/yr/125 pilots. Assuming no other attrition that's around 9 yrs to for mr.pacman to eat all those numbers above you? I'd like to be at Piedmont, but not for 9 yrs if I can help it. Seems kinda long...
Piedmont seems like the place to go considering fast upgrade, top pay, and flow.
Question about the flow....if it's one additional flow number/month for every 125 pilots....then by my limited math skills that's 12/yr/125 pilots. Assuming no other attrition that's around 9 yrs to for mr.pacman to eat all those numbers above you? I'd like to be at Piedmont, but not for 9 yrs if I can help it. Seems kinda long...
09-22-2016, 02:54 AM
#9425
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Originally Posted by flyingpuppy
So I read "industry leading pay" on Envoy and PSA websites. Just want to clarify that PDT has the highest 1st year pay
Envoy: $37.90
PSA: $38.50
PDT: $38.80
Plus up to $20,000 bonus for all 3.
Envoy's flow - contract but will take longer than PDT if hired now
PSA's flow can be STOPPED by management
PDT's flow CANNOT be stopped for the duration it is stated in the contract. I think 10 years.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Envoy: $37.90
PSA: $38.50
PDT: $38.80
Plus up to $20,000 bonus for all 3.
Envoy's flow - contract but will take longer than PDT if hired now
PSA's flow can be STOPPED by management
PDT's flow CANNOT be stopped for the duration it is stated in the contract. I think 10 years.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
09-22-2016, 03:22 AM
#9426
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Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 4,599
Originally Posted by flyingpuppy
So I read "industry leading pay" on Envoy and PSA websites. Just want to clarify that PDT has the highest 1st year pay
Envoy: $37.90
PSA: $38.50
PDT: $38.80
Plus up to $20,000 bonus for all 3.
Envoy's flow - contract but will take longer than PDT if hired now
PSA's flow can be STOPPED by management
PDT's flow CANNOT be stopped for the duration it is stated in the contract. I think 10 years.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Envoy: $37.90
PSA: $38.50
PDT: $38.80
Plus up to $20,000 bonus for all 3.
Envoy's flow - contract but will take longer than PDT if hired now
PSA's flow can be STOPPED by management
PDT's flow CANNOT be stopped for the duration it is stated in the contract. I think 10 years.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
09-22-2016, 05:04 AM
#9427
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
PSA's flow cannot be stopped by management any more than yours can. It is contractual.
09-22-2016, 05:24 AM
#9428
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Position: CRJ FO
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Originally Posted by Wink
That's not entirely true. The flow will not be stopped bit a pilot's eligibility to flow can be (correct me if I'm wrong) if he receives a "final warning" from PSA management. At PDT, the only thing that could stop a pilot from flowing would be an OPEN disciplinary hearing at his time to flow.
If you really want to think along those terms, AAG and WO management could stop ANY of the flows from the WOs at ANY time they choose. Contractual or not. And they'll just say, "too bad, grieve it". And then we would all go to court, arbitration, etc... All the get a class date 10+ years from now and a few thousand in a compensatory "no hard feelings" offer.
09-22-2016, 05:26 AM
#9429
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Originally Posted by Wink
That's not entirely true. The flow will not be stopped bit a pilot's eligibility to flow can be (correct me if I'm wrong) if he receives a "final warning" from PSA management. At PDT, the only thing that could stop a pilot from flowing would be an OPEN disciplinary hearing at his time to flow.
09-22-2016, 05:42 AM
#9430
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
And, saying that PSA's flow can be stopped by management if you "have a final warning" on your file is almost the same as saying that Piedmont's flow can be stopped by management if you have an "open disciplinary action". Both are far fetched.
If I were a new hire at PDT, I would be concerned about the fact that I would not flow for 15 years unless growth occurs (which it will not), and the airplanes that PDT flies will not be around more than 10 years. 50 seat jets only have a life span of a few more years.
Growth can only occur if there are pilots to support it. PDT will be replacing the Dash with 145's, and is continuing to struggle to do so. It is unlikely that there will be enough pilots to actually increase the overall fleet numbers at PDT. That will mean no increased flow numbers.
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