That's not entirely true. The flow will not be stopped bit a pilot's eligibility to flow can be (correct me if I'm wrong) if he receives a "final warning" from PSA management. At PDT, the only thing that could stop a pilot from flowing would be an OPEN disciplinary hearing at his time to flow.

 

If that is the reason you are advertising that the PSA flow can be stopped, it's completely disingenuous and extremely far fetched. Are you the same guy who writes the fine print into third party mortgage agreements?

If you really want to think along those terms, AAG and WO management could stop ANY of the flows from the WOs at ANY time they choose. Contractual or not. And they'll just say, "too bad, grieve it". And then we would all go to court, arbitration, etc... All the get a class date 10+ years from now and a few thousand in a compensatory "no hard feelings" offer.

 

And, saying that PSA's flow can be stopped by management if you "have a final warning" on your file is almost the same as saying that Piedmont's flow can be stopped by management if you have an "open disciplinary action". Both are far fetched.

 

All flows can be stopped. They just have to declare bankruptcy at your particular WO, and... POOF... it is stopped. Or, move your airplanes to another carrier and move you over there.

If I were a new hire at PDT, I would be concerned about the fact that I would not flow for 15 years unless growth occurs (which it will not), and the airplanes that PDT flies will not be around more than 10 years. 50 seat jets only have a life span of a few more years.

Growth can only occur if there are pilots to support it. PDT will be replacing the Dash with 145's, and is continuing to struggle to do so. It is unlikely that there will be enough pilots to actually increase the overall fleet numbers at PDT. That will mean no increased flow numbers.

 

In other news, here are some of the details on the PDT pay package, per LH:

New Piedmont first officers will receive:
-Starting pay of $38.80 per hour
-Sign on bonus of up to $20,000:
- $15,000 for all new hire pilots
- an additional $5,000 for new hire pilots with current Part 121 experience

- Up to $20,000 retention bonus after one year of service, paid in $2,500 quarterly installments until upgrade to captain

Current Piedmont first officers will receive:
- Immediate pay raise to $38.80 for first year first officers
- Immediate pay raise to top of scale (jet rate) for all other first officers
- $20,000 retention bonus after one year of service, paid in $2,500 quarterly installments until upgrade to captain

-Current Piedmont captains will receive:
-$7,500 retention bonus

-Combination of the FO retention bonus and captain retention bonus up to $7,500 to those who upgrade quickly.

 

Some wonder what happens then since I should upgrade before end of year and started in May of this year. Do I just get 7500 or get some of the fo bonus as well?


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Its funny cause you really have no idea *** youre talking about. You don't know the future. You certainly cant predict what will happen here or wherever the heck you are. PDT is doing just fine.

 

That's funny. When was PSA's flow stopped? Tell me about it. I can tell you people that have flowed each month. We will flow exactly what we are supposed to this year.

 

I wasn't implying that PSA's flow would be stopped, someone else said that. And i agree, it is far fetched, but i know a PSA Captain who received a final warning for a totally BS reason whereas had he been at PDT his flow status would have continued when the disciplinary investigation had concluded. Too think this will happen in mass is absurd, i was simply pointing out that there are different conditions in our flow agreements and Piedmont's seems more secure.

 

Except after your disciplinary hearing concludes, your flow status resumes at Piedmont (unless of course it concludes in termination, in which case you have bigger problems)

You need to relax dude. This isnt an attack on PSA or it's pilots. Just shining light on an unlikely, but still important difference.