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Old 09-20-2016 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Not quite yet. The person at 524 is actually only our 446th pilot on the list. (see Chief Pilot's page) According to that list, we are at 465 pilots as of the 9/12/16 class, which accounts for the latest vacancy bid for their placement.
Ouch. Talk about fine print
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Old 09-20-2016 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
I'm just as anxious to hear what happens but I'm willing to give it some time, especially since we got a late start.
Is that what your MEC is telling you?

If so you're being lied to. All 3 WO MECs got the proposals simultaneously.

PSA pulled the trigger without much negotiation. They left money on the table (again) and set the bar for the rest of us for our agreements (again).

Envoy managed to get some extra cash for the senior FOs by taking a breath and resisting the knee jerk reaction to take the first offer like a desperate virgin.

I hope that PDT's delay is a reflection of what envoy has done, but the misinformation you're being fed makes that seem less likely. Keep asking questions until you get the truth.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
PSA pulled the trigger without much negotiation. They left money on the table (again) and set the bar for the rest of us for our agreements (again).

Envoy managed to get some extra cash for the senior FOs by taking a breath and resisting the knee jerk reaction to take the first offer like a desperate virgin.

I hope that PDT's delay is a reflection of what envoy has done, but the misinformation you're being fed makes that seem less likely. Keep asking questions until you get the truth.
According to the PSA MEC, they did not accept the first offer. They asked for a $10,000 Captain bonus and settled on $7,500. The original offer from AAG was $5,000. Consequently Envoy received (and presumably PDT) a $7,500 bonus as well for Captains. They also made attempts at other improvements.

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Old 09-20-2016 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Centra
According to the PSA MEC, they did not accept the first offer. They asked for a $10,000 Captain bonus and settled on $7,500. The original offer from AAG was $5,000. Consequently Envoy received (and presumably PDT) a $7,500 bonus as well for Captains. They also made attempts at other improvements.

Well it is Boiler Boy...he likes sticking his **** and misinformation into everyone's beehive.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
Is that what your MEC is telling you?

If so you're being lied to. All 3 WO MECs got the proposals simultaneously.

PSA pulled the trigger without much negotiation. They left money on the table (again) and set the bar for the rest of us for our agreements (again).

Envoy managed to get some extra cash for the senior FOs by taking a breath and resisting the knee jerk reaction to take the first offer like a desperate virgin.

I hope that PDT's delay is a reflection of what envoy has done, but the misinformation you're being fed makes that seem less likely. Keep asking questions until you get the truth.

Our MEC and negotiating committee are nothing but honest professionals. There is no reason to believe they would lie. Further our management only presented the offer late last week. I have confirmed this through multiple channels.

Hopefully the endeavor pay increases go through and this increase at the wholly owns is insignificant and we see real pay increases.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
Our MEC and negotiating committee are nothing but honest professionals. There is no reason to believe they would lie. Further our management only presented the offer late last week. I have confirmed this through multiple channels.

Hopefully the endeavor pay increases go through and this increase at the wholly owns is insignificant and we see real pay increases.
You are right. PDT was late to be notified.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Centra
According to the PSA MEC, they did not accept the first offer. They asked for a $10,000 Captain bonus and settled on $7,500. The original offer from AAG was $5,000. Consequently Envoy received (and presumably PDT) a $7,500 bonus as well for Captains. They also made attempts at other improvements.

I suppose it was the superior negotiating that led to PSA leaving extra money on the table. Envoy managed to capture that extra $ for senior FOs. I also know PSA didn't even bother with getting contract language before ratifying the changes. Talk about being in a hurry.

To use your words: THE MORE YOU KNOW.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 06:11 PM
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Piedmont just posted something interesting on their Facebook page 15 minutes ago that seems to be the build up for something big. Maybe a big announcement tomorrow?
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Old 09-20-2016 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
I suppose it was the superior negotiating that led to PSA leaving extra money on the table. Envoy managed to capture that extra $ for senior FOs. I also know PSA didn't even bother with getting contract language before ratifying the changes. Talk about being in a hurry.

To use your words: THE MORE YOU KNOW.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Outof410
Piedmont just posted something interesting on their Facebook page 15 minutes ago that seems to be the build up for something big. Maybe a big announcement tomorrow?
What did it say? Last post i see is regarding the reno air races
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