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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
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The company started the process, quite informally I might add, Tuesday. The bonus payments don't pay out until next year. What is the rush to get this done in a matter of days versus a matter of weeks?
Hmm how about the image it projects to the prospective applicant? Right now we have a bunch less to offer than the other 2 at the outset. The process was ****ed when the other 2 took the deal, even you should be able to figure that out. It doesn't matter when it starts, we can't even offer it right now!

I agree that it was shady BS if AAG, PSA, and ENY had us left out in the dark. I will fault them too...hey all GFY's! It's now Friday and y'all are behind so you boys better be working this weekend!
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
On a serious note, how about CALLING THE COMPANY and asking to SEE THE PROPOSAL!
My point exactly. Have you CALLED YOUR REP? If so, you would know that the Company didn't have a proposal to show. Hence the wait.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PapaUniform
People, calm down. The proposal has not been turned down or decided on in any manner whatsoever. ALPA is simply waiting on the company to provide the written language so they can review it and, at a minimum, review the fine print. The follow-up clearly stated they were waiting on the proposal. What part of that means that the talks are over?

Perhaps if you took the initiative to pick up the phone and call your representative, you would know that already. You could use that time on the telephone to provide your opinion on the matter, which is the whole point of having a representative in the first place.
Oh I already did that, and melted the phone in the process. I'll just be flying my trip...patiently waiting...$#%&! Will someone get to the bottom of why the other 2 carriers seemed to have a leg up on this offering? That's all I ask and I'm done for now.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PapaUniform
You could use that time on the telephone to provide your opinion on the matter, which is the whole point of having a representative in the first place.
Nah it's easier to ***** and whine on Facebook and APC.

It's stuff like this that creates public disunity within the group that the company negotiators love.

I'm not the biggest fan of our current MEC chairman, mostly because of the way in which LOA 19 was negotiated, but I agree with how they are handling this situation. It's a shame it has unfolded the way it has but I find little fault with Bruce or the union.

I've called my rep and a negotiating committee rep and made my opinion known.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 11:03 AM
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Old 09-16-2016 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Hmm how about the image it projects to the prospective applicant? Right now we have a bunch less to offer than the other 2 at the outset. The process was ****ed when the other 2 took the deal, even you should be able to figure that out.
So why accept the same as everyone else, why not try to make ours the best of the 3? We are talking about a matter of days maybe weeks here. That's one new hire class if even.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
So why accept the same as everyone else, why not try to make ours the best of the 3? We are talking about a matter of days maybe weeks here. That's one new hire class if even.
Hey I hope it is the best. It should be, as we are arguably harder to hire for. Praise will be earned at that point. I'm done *****ing, it is just extremely frustrating. If you want a constructive suggestion, shoot for the highest hourly wage of the 3, 40+ per hour. Also, give the CAs 5K and the FOs not affected by the bonus 2,500 in retention.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Hey I hope it is the best. It should be, as we are arguably harder to hire for. Praise will be earned at that point. I'm done *****ing, it is just extremely frustrating. If you want a constructive suggestion, shoot for the highest hourly wage of the 3, 40+ per hour. Also, give the CAs 5K and the FOs not affected by the bonus 2,500 in retention.
Oh, so you're negotiating now? That takes too much time. We needed this done yesterday. What's taking so long!? Why is it taking you more than 3 seconds to get this done.

I'm joking, but I feel like we've come full circle here.

I'm just as anxious to hear what happens but I'm willing to give it some time, especially since we got a late start.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
It's now Friday and y'all are behind so you boys better be working this weekend!
Wait. Work on the weekend?
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Old 09-16-2016 | 06:23 PM
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Watching the bickering on the FB would be hilarious if it wasn't so disgusting. its a mess on there. I wonder if the new guys know the management pilots that they are crapping on are reading it in real time... Idiots
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